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 Post subject: Dangerous to drive with a bad strut mount?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:20 am 
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Mine has been bad for quite sometime now, and the reason for this is not because I don't want to change it. Nobody knew what is was, not even the dealer.

But I've (think) I've figured it out now. But the shops all have vacation and don't have time before 1½ weeks. It sounds very bad, is it dangerous like e.g the wheel falling off? 8O

Thanks a lot.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:39 am 
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sounds like every shop you have been dealing with has no business working on cars

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:54 am 
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It could cause you some problems in an bad situation with a bump or hard braking, since the wheel might not be in contact with the road all the time. Plus it should feel the the car is skipping across the road when you hit a bump, especially in a turn.

I'd replace it if the car is worth it. Mine isnt so 4 blown struts and mounts it is!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:25 am 
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shizzy wrote:
sounds like every shop you have been dealing with has no business working on cars


Yep :roll:

I had to figure it myself with the help of the board..

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:26 am 
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kaj27 wrote:
It could cause you some problems in an bad situation with a bump or hard braking, since the wheel might not be in contact with the road all the time. Plus it should feel the the car is skipping across the road when you hit a bump, especially in a turn.

I'd replace it if the car is worth it. Mine isnt so 4 blown struts and mounts it is!


If thats it it aint so bad.. I was scared the suspension would come down, like my friends Renault both sides AT THE SAME TIME!!!! 8O 8O 8O

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:34 pm 
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it is more likely that you have excess play in the mount, rather than a possibility of the strut coming free from it...though it is a possibility.

Are you sure it's the upper mount, and not the spring perch or strut bearing?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:18 am 
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theCOOP wrote:
it is more likely that you have excess play in the mount, rather than a possibility of the strut coming free from it...though it is a possibility.

Are you sure it's the upper mount, and not the spring perch or strut bearing?


Its not the spring.. But I bought everything (bearing, upper spring seat and strut mount)
seen on this picture:
http://www.neons.org/neontsb/TSB/02/ima ... 98fig2.gif

So I will change everything..

Is a bad bearing dangerous?

Thanks..

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:14 pm 
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Anything wrong with the suspension is considered dangerous, since it could cause you to lose control of the vehicle.

Just like brakes, if they are not in perfect working order you can argue that your less likely to avoid an accident, thus its dangerous.

Insepct the bad mount, does it look like the top of the strut can pull out of the mount or punch thru it. I'd think it would be almost impossible, but rubber can rip apart and tear away completely, so its possible although I doubt anyone as every seen one that bad. You'd have to go over some pretty extreme bumps or handling at the edge of the envelope to pull the top of the strut out of the mount.

Drive extremely carefully, yea a bad strut mount could cause some extremely surprising responses in handling, not exactly a good combination with speed and cornering. I'd avoid driving, not only for safety but to prevent more damage, if I was too drive, it would be like a little old lady.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:49 pm 
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While were at it... I just bought new struts & springs.

My neon has 95k on it and with my subs in my trunk i have fishtailed around a hard corner. My suspension also bangs if i hit a bump. Does this sound like a topmount issue?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:01 am 
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I apologize for my hyjacking of this thread, but I have a relevent question. I get a clunking/clinking noise over bumps that comes from all four corners, but most commonly the front. Its not severe, but you can hear it. Sounds like it is comeing from the wheelwells somewhere. Had balljoints, tie rod ends, and CV joints checked, all were fine. Wheel bearings seem fine. I had always thought upper stut mounts, but the noise is exactly the same pitch as if i tap the strut perch thingy (where the spring sits) with a wrench. Could my springs just be rotating/grinding against the plate making noise? Handles fine, absolutely NO indication anything is wrong by the way it drives, and it has been making these noised for a year now. Will also emmit a noise of the same pitch but not quite as loud when i let the car down from a jack quickly. Any ideas?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:21 am 
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Rick '99 Flame Red R/T wrote:
Anything wrong with the suspension is considered dangerous, since it could cause you to lose control of the vehicle.

Just like brakes, if they are not in perfect working order you can argue that your less likely to avoid an accident, thus its dangerous.

Insepct the bad mount, does it look like the top of the strut can pull out of the mount or punch thru it. I'd think it would be almost impossible, but rubber can rip apart and tear away completely, so its possible although I doubt anyone as every seen one that bad. You'd have to go over some pretty extreme bumps or handling at the edge of the envelope to pull the top of the strut out of the mount.

Drive extremely carefully, yea a bad strut mount could cause some extremely surprising responses in handling, not exactly a good combination with speed and cornering. I'd avoid driving, not only for safety but to prevent more damage, if I was too drive, it would be like a little old lady.


Well everything actually sits pretty tight where it should be, nothing is loose or have play in it.. Thats why it took so long figuring it out. I accidentaly found out by kicking on the wheel and the sound was audiable.
I do drive like an old lady now since I dont want something to happen.
But I'm hopefully getting it fixed this week.

Thanks a lot
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:05 pm 
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Felikz and blackbeast, both your symptoms (especially noises in the back) sounds like bad upper strut mounts.

When the front upper mounts in the gf's car were bad, it was more of a squishy sound...kinda.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:36 pm 
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So are upper strut mounts a life threatening issue? The car handles fine, just makes noise, been like this for a year... I wont have the cash to do anything about for at least another month. Thanks for the advice.

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