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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:00 am 
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I have remelted the connections on those two connectors, but alas, that is not the problem. Usually, my speedometer is the gauge that cuts out. But my gauges are all occasionally cutting out at the same time, along with all the lights, and the problem is actually the pins and sockets not connecting properly, not cracked solder joints. I found this out when all the gauges dropped out and I pushed in on the bottom of the gauge cluster and they all came back to life. Bending the pins a little helps, as does shimming the connectors that are connected to the dash. This pushes them further in to the sockets on the cluster. It is a really poor design, and I still have problems with them. If you pull out the cluster and resolder the pins, the simple act of replacing the cluster causes the pins to connect right for a while, then vibration and heat make them disconnect a bit. I suppose the only long-term solution would be to hard-wire the connections somehow, and replace the bad connectors with better ones.

When all of my gauges had went down at the same time, I tapped on the top of my dash and they all jumped back up.

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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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I've done that as well. It's those stinking connectors. It takes the most microscopic movement to pull them apart.

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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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all my gauges work except gas it marks empty always no matter what,even if all the way full and low gas light on so i kno it should work....im thinking sending unit....u?

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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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This has nothing to do with soldering, but sure helps the other side. Whiteface kit looks way cooler than stock IMO.
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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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This has nothing to do with soldering, but sure helps the other side. Whiteface kit looks way cooler than stock IMO.
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Where did you get the white gauges with the black overlay?

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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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I got it from amazon.com Can't remember the name of company that actually makes the overlay (I've since thrown away the package). It was 24.99 including shipping. I liked it cause you don't have to remove the needles. Just spray back with water/dishwashing liquid and pull the stop pins. Get them positioned then squeegee excess water out. That is stock cluster with just the white overlays.

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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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Great post!! Did it yesterday hardly took me anytime at all. Only issue I ran into was the flow wouldn't come off onto some of the points... but it was mainly my speedo and gas gauge that was messing up... and now... when I get pulled over and they ask if I know how fast I was going, I can answer "yes" with a big smile on my face... thanks again.

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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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Here are couple pics I made to help people remove the dash top so they can easily get to the instrument cluster.
Now you will know exactly where to put your pry-bar to lift up the dash.


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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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Here are couple pics I made to help people remove the dash top so they can easily get to the instrument cluster.
Now you will know exactly where to put your pry-bar to lift up the dash.


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A pry bar? Lmao... Don't you think that's use of excessive force? You can practically pull that thing off with ur bare hands.

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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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so, the first thing to do is, re-solder the pins, bend the pins slightly for tighter contact, then shim the plugs to the dash, then get a new speedo sensor, then put a new speed output ring on the differencial

and if all of that doesn't work then what?

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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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Wiring, it's not wireless like the internet! Check continuity of the WH/OR from the speed sensor to the PCM pin 66 (pin 5 for '95 PCM) and to the instrument cluster pin 10. Make sure the OR wire has at least 8 volts at the sensor and that the BK/LB is actually a ground.

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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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I read about this repair somewhere and thought, "why would i need to resolder the leads?". Then I took my cluster out and saw haha. Very easy fix and just melting the solder wont help if it is partially cold soldered or is lacking the amount of solder needed for a good connection. If you are familiar with soldering it is very simple, if not watch a 10 minute youtube video on how to, oh wait he made one :good:

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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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My dash started with just the Speedometer problem, the bouncing, and then everything went out(not the lights though) I did the resolder: however that didn't work. As i said the lights work, but Non of the gauges to, so i don't think it has anything to do with the speed sensor, what else could it be?


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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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I also just checked the fuse and it is fine.


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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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NEVER seen a problem with a board, I've done many!!!!!!

You could be the unlucky guy who's a first.

Do the re-solder again. I always add a bit of solder.

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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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I have this problem and haven't gotten around to fixing it yet cuz it doesn't happen that often. I solder everyday cuz I fix ipod touch's on ebay. I would suggest that you get you some flux to put on the solder points before you remelt them. The flux helps the solder to flow easily and make the solder adhere better.

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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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I did the resolder again. and Notta. Anyone have a place where you can find cheap ones?


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I did the resolder again. and Notta. Anyone have a place where you can find cheap ones?


Junkyard.
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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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also could be the connectors that the gauge cluster plugs in to, they are p.o.s.

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Worked! Thanks A Million!

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Worked! Thanks A Million!

I share this sentiment!
Cluster was bouncing, I noticed the cracks and resoldered all the pins just as performed in the video and the cluster has been great since, thanks a bunch! :good:

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Hi, i followed your video and am glad to tell you that success was mine on the first try. MANY THANKS for caring enough to take the time to do the video. BArney


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QUESTION: by sumping needled what does he mean? my cluster does sumthign weird and i wanna knwo what it is here is teh issue

PROBLEM: cluster works fine when running no problems...when car is turned off all needles go down bu then the speedo needle goes up to about 55mph and stays there in when the car is off. But it returns to working order when the car is turned back on. What is this? jumping?


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Great vid, just did this tonight and it worked like a charm!! YAY for a tach that works again!!

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For the guy who did dozens of harnesses, can't believe I hadn't updated it. :blush:

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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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Does anybody know what solder to use or does it not matter?

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Does anybody know what solder to use or does it not matter?

Personally, I like to use the low-temp solder, since it melts / flows easier.


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Chrysler recommends using rosin core type solder.

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Ok good I bought some 60/40 rosin core solder

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 Post subject: Re: How To: Instrument cluster soldering repair *vid*
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I just want to say that I (finally) did the solder board repair on one of my dash clusters, per the tips in the video, posted by the O.P.
It works great !! :good:

Nice to have a dash cluster and speedometer that works normally again...without any more random Airbag lights and tachometer & speedo needle that bounces around. :smile:


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