It is currently Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:06 am

All times are UTC - 7 hours [ DST ]





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Installing harmonic balancer damper
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:14 am 
Offline
Site Supporter
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:49 pm
Posts: 2845
Location: Delaware
Mannnnn I sware, our engines have the worst design for the crank sprocket and the freakin balancer. My buddies honda they all just slip right off, we wind up breaking things all the time especially when we try to pull them off.

I have a special miller tool for installing a stock balancer. I lubed it up a little bit and couldnt get it to go on anymore, i was about a half inch away from being where i needed to be, so i put a lot of pressure on it with the miller install tool and started tapping it with the plastic mallet around the edges, well the damn thing broke. fml lol. Do you guys heat the center up ? I was worried about melting the rubber surrounding. Now i gotta pull the damn thing some how. its huge

_________________
1997 base model coupe - 2.4 swapped, crane 18s, amm, AFX LT, squirted. Daily Driver - FOR SALE

Sean Gallagher
Aim: Crzy3rdgen
PayPal: Crzy3rdgen@aol.com

Leaving me feedback? Please post here
http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=335460


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Installing harmonic balancer damper
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:27 pm 
Offline
Neon Enthusiast
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:23 am
Posts: 1052
Location: Altoona, PA
I've used the Miller tools to remove and install the harmonic balancer/pulley and the crankshaft sprocket several times and have never had any difficulty. Never used lubricants or heat, either.

_________________
Image

1997 Plymouth neon expresso
1988 Dodge Power Ram
1984 Dodge RamCharger
1996 Jeep Cherokee
1999 Jeep Cherokee


And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made.
-Simon and Garfunkel, "The Sound of Silence"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Installing harmonic balancer damper
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:13 pm 
Offline
Site Supporter
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 10, 2003 7:46 pm
Posts: 3486
Location: Schofield Barracks, Hawaii
For the crankshaft sprocket I use a large socket centered on it and hammer it on with a little bit of spray lubricant. Then i heat the harmonic balancer and slide it on

_________________
98 Neon R/T (SRT'd 2.4 swap 20G Turbo Full MS2 Standalone) - storage
96 Neon - SRT4 swap, T850, 50 trim
13 Dodge Dart Rallye - family car, 1.4L Turbo, 6 speed, citrus peel
Feedback:
http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=354472


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Installing harmonic balancer damper
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:01 pm 
Offline
Global Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:15 am
Posts: 8157
Location: Northwest Wisconsin
Never use heat on the stock crankshaft pulley. It will deteriorate the rubber maybe not right away, but it will. Heat is for all metal UDPs. If a plastic mallet broke your pulley, something was wrong with it. Be happy it didn't fall apart while it was running. You should be able to find a good replacement at a junkyard. While you are there at the junkyard, practice removing and installing a few and you will find there is nothing hard about it, especially with the right tools.

_________________
Case

Image

98 Sport Coupe Alpine Green ATX stock
98 Sport Coupe Amethyst ATX to MTX swap (son's)
97 Expresso Coupe Black ATX stock (daughter's)
97 Sport Coupe Magenta ATX stock (wife's)
95 NYG ACR Coupe (restored to stock)
03 Dakota QC 4.7 4x4 ATX Patriot Blue stock

Can your key can be made from one of the free keys?
http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=402268


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Installing harmonic balancer damper
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:29 pm 
Offline
Site Supporter
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:49 pm
Posts: 2845
Location: Delaware
dude i smacked the pulley and it chipped, brand new, no nothings wrong with it, now yeah there is obviously.

You never want to smack your crank. The crank sprocket goes on with the tool super easy. The harmonic damper is a whole nother story. Alls i wanted was to know some tricks to get it on cause it stopped at a certain point.

_________________
1997 base model coupe - 2.4 swapped, crane 18s, amm, AFX LT, squirted. Daily Driver - FOR SALE

Sean Gallagher
Aim: Crzy3rdgen
PayPal: Crzy3rdgen@aol.com

Leaving me feedback? Please post here
http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=335460


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Installing harmonic balancer damper
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:39 pm 
Offline
Global Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:15 am
Posts: 8157
Location: Northwest Wisconsin
Sorry if this too obvious but are you taking the cup off when you do the pulley? The cup is just for the sprocket.

_________________
Case

Image

98 Sport Coupe Alpine Green ATX stock
98 Sport Coupe Amethyst ATX to MTX swap (son's)
97 Expresso Coupe Black ATX stock (daughter's)
97 Sport Coupe Magenta ATX stock (wife's)
95 NYG ACR Coupe (restored to stock)
03 Dakota QC 4.7 4x4 ATX Patriot Blue stock

Can your key can be made from one of the free keys?
http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=402268


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Installing harmonic balancer damper
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:46 pm 
Offline
Global Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:14 pm
Posts: 6911
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
Well, when you get the broken balancer off, look at the crank snout, it should be clean, have no burrs and no rust. I'd bet that there was something in there, causing it to stop where it did. With the Miller special service tool, the balancer should slide right on all the way. Next time, if it stops short, back it off and check to see what is causing the problem.

_________________
1995 Sport Sedan (The Frog), 2.0L sohc/atx, Bone Stock Canadian model, Belvidere built 4/94, 200,275 miles (322,297 kms) as of 07-06-14. Given to my brother.
2004 R/T, all stock, 2.0L Magnum/mtx, Belvidere built 11/03, 156,933 miles as of 06-25-14, My current DD.
20+ years Chrysler Tech


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Installing harmonic balancer damper
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:48 pm 
Offline
Site Supporter
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:49 pm
Posts: 2845
Location: Delaware
MichNeon wrote:
Well, when you get the broken balancer off, look at the crank snout, it should be clean, have no burrs and no rust. I'd bet that there was something in there, causing it to stop where it did. With the Miller special service tool, the balancer should slide right on all the way. Next time, if it stops short, back it off and check to see what is causing the problem.


Agreed... i'll have to get some 2000 grit just to make sure for the next one.

_________________
1997 base model coupe - 2.4 swapped, crane 18s, amm, AFX LT, squirted. Daily Driver - FOR SALE

Sean Gallagher
Aim: Crzy3rdgen
PayPal: Crzy3rdgen@aol.com

Leaving me feedback? Please post here
http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=335460


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Installing harmonic balancer damper
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:50 pm 
Offline
Neon Enthusiast
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:17 am
Posts: 850
Location: buffalo ny
i ended up stripping my crank where the bolt goes and the bolt had to be welded to a slide hammer to be removed. i drilled and tapped and it worked. use the bolt to press it on. dont hammer the crank you will pound the crank thrust bearing.

_________________
the beast lives!!!!!!!
i hate annoying pepole almost as much as a smokey clutch


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Installing harmonic balancer damper
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:40 pm 
Offline
Site Supporter
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:49 pm
Posts: 2845
Location: Delaware
mwha5230 wrote:
i ended up stripping my crank where the bolt goes and the bolt had to be welded to a slide hammer to be removed. i drilled and tapped and it worked. use the bolt to press it on. dont hammer the crank you will pound the crank thrust bearing.


yup my threads in the crank snout arent that good either, the close threads are toast untill u get the bolt in farther

_________________
1997 base model coupe - 2.4 swapped, crane 18s, amm, AFX LT, squirted. Daily Driver - FOR SALE

Sean Gallagher
Aim: Crzy3rdgen
PayPal: Crzy3rdgen@aol.com

Leaving me feedback? Please post here
http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=335460


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Installing harmonic balancer damper
PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:26 pm 
Offline
Site Supporter
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:49 pm
Posts: 2845
Location: Delaware
well I got the crank pulley off, prepped the new one and the crank snout, used the installer and i still cant get the dam thing on

_________________
1997 base model coupe - 2.4 swapped, crane 18s, amm, AFX LT, squirted. Daily Driver - FOR SALE

Sean Gallagher
Aim: Crzy3rdgen
PayPal: Crzy3rdgen@aol.com

Leaving me feedback? Please post here
http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=335460


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Installing harmonic balancer damper
PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:05 pm 
Offline
Site Supporter
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:49 pm
Posts: 2845
Location: Delaware
all my threads just fell apart, the threads that were left anyway. WHAT A PIECE OF CRAP :mad:

_________________
1997 base model coupe - 2.4 swapped, crane 18s, amm, AFX LT, squirted. Daily Driver - FOR SALE

Sean Gallagher
Aim: Crzy3rdgen
PayPal: Crzy3rdgen@aol.com

Leaving me feedback? Please post here
http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=335460


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 7 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Dave488, Google [Bot] and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
Style based on FI Subice by phpBBservice.nl