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boorahdurukan
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Post subject: How-To: Changing Cluster Bulbs to LED's and Odometer Change Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:52 pm |
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I just got done changing the bulbs in my new cluster with Red LED's
I chose red for two reasons, My car is red, and red is the color that comes out the best.
Whats needed Bulbs/LED size: 194
I used to have a cluster without a tach, i bought a cluster with a tach, so unless you also want to replace your odometer you do not have to go as far as i did with the install, you can simply just remove the back paper piece, remove bulbs, replace with leds' reinstall
Step 1: Remove Cluster, to do this simply lift up the dash, remove the 4 phillips screw around the cluster, pull straight forward and it should come out
Step 2: Remove the paper backing on the back side of the cluster, this is done by removing all the visible T screws on the back
Step 3: Remove all the screws from the curcuit board, this includes the 2 screw on top and bottom of the connectors
Step 4: Turn around the cluster to the side you see in your car, Remove the 6 screw around it and it will pop right off
Step 5: Now turn it back around to the curcuit board, unplug the grey plug by pushing in and pulling it back towards you
Step 6: CAREFULLY pry off the curcuit board, pull on all sides evenly and slowly and it will pop off
Step 7: Now remove the white piece of plastic that is left, like i said before you do not have to go this far unless like me you are replacing the odometer
Step 8: to put in the LED's remove the bulb sockets by twisting the grey piece on the curcuit board, take all of them out, i chose to only change 10 of the bulbs to LED's, i left the warnings and signals as normal bulbs.
Step 9: Remove the bulb from the socket by getting a VERY small flathead screw driver and snap off the part where the bulbs wires are soldered into the socket at the bottem of the socket, now you should be able to pull the bulb out of the socket with ease
Step 10: Put in the LED by taking the wire at the base of the LED and pulling it out so it sticks out and looks like the wire at the end of the bulb you pulled out, just simply place the LED into the socket and make sure that the wires come out the two holes at the bottom of the socket, now using the small flathead make the wire wrap around the piece of metal at the bottom of the socket, MAKE SURE IT IS TOUCHING SO YOU DONT HAVE TO REDO IT LIKE I HAD TO!!
Step 11: Repeat step 10 for all the bulbs you are changing
Step 12: Put all the LEDS/SOCKETS back onto the curcuit board
Stap 13: Now if you are reaplacing the odometer too unscrew the two screw at the ends of the odometer, take it out and put it aside, not open up your old cluster using the same steps above, now remove odometer from that one and transfer into new one.
Step 14: Place the white plactic back over the cluster
Step 15: Place the front plastic back on and screw it in with the 6 screws
Step 16: Carefully Put the curcuit board back on, make sure all the needle shafts slide into the holes, screw in all the screws removed
Step 17: Plug the odometer cable back into the plug you removed it from
Step 19: Now screw in the black piece of paper on the back,
Step 20: Put it back into the car, push it into the plugs and make sure its nice and snug, screw in the 4 phillips screws back in, place the dash back over it, make sure it all snaps into place, start car and test it out! Like i said i didnt double check to make sure the wires were touching, so they werent all lit up the first time around, that is when i took the pic, since then i have fixed the problem and i will take pics later tomorrow and update!
here are some more pics of it in "action" some of them are very trippy

Last edited by boorahdurukan on Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:33 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Dustinsuglyhighline
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:00 pm |
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More pics lit up please.
Great how-to otherwise, I may be trying this shortly.
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boorahdurukan
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:06 pm |
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Yeah i will have more lit pics like i said, i didn't make sure wires were connected before putting it in so when i put it in some of them didnt light up, i took pics then removed it and fixed the problem, then reinstalled it, Looks freakn awesome, i will take more lit up pics tomorrow
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:34 pm |
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Sounds good; very interested.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:06 am |
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what size bulbs are those?????
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boorahdurukan
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:02 am |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:48 pm |
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good stuff
fyi, any color other than red may not come out right as the plastic on the overlay itself is tinted. for instance, blue will end up looking greenish
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boorahdurukan
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:34 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:33 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:47 pm |
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boorahdurukan
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:16 am |
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Ebay, came to about $20 for 10 with shipping, not TOO bad
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:48 pm |
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would radio shack carry them?
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boorahdurukan
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:41 am |
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:06 pm |
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very nice. One question. Did the neddles have their own decitated light?
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:28 pm |
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no, its a (1) bulb for the needle and numbers
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:27 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:58 pm |
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this took all but 5 minutes to do. no changing bulbs, just a red sharpie. click for full size

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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:34 pm |
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lol, nice one with the sharpie, think I'm gonna try that...
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:20 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:53 pm |
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This is Not as easy as it looks! i destroyed a few LED's trying and I dont think but two actually worked. Spend the extra and get the pre made twist locks (same thing as this but already put together). I got em from superbrightleds.com
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:17 pm |
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vielecustoms wrote: This is Not as easy as it looks! i destroyed a few LED's trying and I dont think but two actually worked. Spend the extra and get the pre made twist locks (same thing as this but already put together). I got em from superbrightleds.com
what color did you go with , Im interested in seeing something other than red
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:31 pm |
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I tried green and blue but I ended up destroying a few bulbs ( snapped the wire inside) so I am waiting for the twist locks to come in.
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Miko
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:06 pm |
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Does polarity matter with LEDs?
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:15 pm |
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i just stuck them in there in random so i dont think so.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:32 pm |
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Miko wrote: Does polarity matter with LEDs?
it did when I did it and I used the same leds that were used by the orginal poster... I just did the mod like 1am saturday morning
also noted that my check engine light and battery light are slighty "dimmed" when the ignition is on, but they will also light up like normal as/when needed
I totally tore down the twist connector (took the metal tabs out, installed led, adjusted metal tabs so they would catch again and reinstalled) took some time to do 10 of them
I am going to try the red sharpie maybe tomorrow and see if I like it better
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:13 am |
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Instead of messing around with busting up the light bulbs, and pulling down the leads on perfectly good new bulbs, just go to the JY and take instrument bulbs out of other vehicles.
The bulbs in the 1st gen cluster are PC194, that means the bulb comes soldered into the base.
If you get normal 194 sockets, then you use wedge base bulbs (just like those LEDs...) and you can just push the new bulb in, and stick it back in the hole.
Pretty much any other car I've robbed for sockets has normal ones. Especially Fords.
Also remember that LED's are polarized, if they don't work when you plug them in, turn the socket around the other way.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:19 pm |
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vielecustoms wrote: I tried green and blue but I ended up destroying a few bulbs ( snapped the wire inside) so I am waiting for the twist locks to come in.
you ever get the green ones in ? . Id love to see how it turned out
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:04 am |
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are those just straight 194 sized? i went to autozone today to look for the LEDs and they had alot of 194s but some where like 194A 194E and stuff so i wasn't sure which ones to get, they also didn't have any colored ones like i wanted anyways  . is the size 194 and only 194?
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:41 am |
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unknown force wrote: are those just straight 194 sized? i went to autozone today to look for the LEDs and they had alot of 194s but some where like 194A 194E and stuff so i wasn't sure which ones to get, they also didn't have any colored ones like i wanted anyways  . is the size 194 and only 194?
if you want I will sell you the ones I did...
they are the exact same setup (brand leds) as the orginal posters...
already done and ready to go...
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:13 am |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:37 am |
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unknown force wrote: what color are they?
red, same type as original poster...
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:50 am |
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oh no thanks then, my cars dark green and the interiors gonna be black/green so the red would look strange but thanks anyways.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:19 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:23 pm |
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boorahdurukan wrote: Go to STEP 5 and look at its pic, there is a big dead spider that came along with the new tach.

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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:33 pm |
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I've replaced all the bulbs with LED arrays EXCEPT the airbag one.
Replacing that meant that instead of going off after the ignition on test cycle, it went off for a fraction then came back on.
Put a bulb back in there and no problem - just so's you're all aware (or maybe it's just mine!).
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:27 am |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:28 am |
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Allan wrote: I've replaced all the bulbs with LED arrays EXCEPT the airbag one. Replacing that meant that instead of going off after the ignition on test cycle, it went off for a fraction then came back on. Put a bulb back in there and no problem - just so's you're all aware (or maybe it's just mine!).
same reason u get the ricer flash, less energy than what was given was used.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:26 am |
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DMez wrote: 194 = 3mm 5mm or 10mm??
the ones I am selling are T10
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:33 am |
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sublevel wrote: DMez wrote: 194 = 3mm 5mm or 10mm?? the ones I am selling are T10
that was NOT my question...i am buying my LED's from oznium...i would like a straight answer please..
194's = 3mm, 5mm or 10mm...
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:37 am |
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194 = whatever size or how many per bulb you want to use as long as you know how to wire it together...
again the ones I have are 10mm which are close to the diameter of the 194 bulb type
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