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 Post subject: Error codes P0440 P0441 P0700 car will not shift out of 1st
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:03 pm 
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Well it looks like yet another problem for the Neon...

I was at a traffic light, took off like normal, and then proceeded to make a right hand turn into the post office. The car should have shifted from 1st to 2nd before I made the turn, but it never did. The check engine light came on, and the car continued to stay in first. I parked, got out, check around the car, and nothing.

Car will not shift into 2nd gear at all, I took the car up to 4500-4750 rpm range to see if would shift, and it won't. I took all local roads home, roughly 2 miles, keeping it under 30 mph. Its parked in the driveway, I have not driven it since this happened.

I checked the codes, here what I'm getting

P0440 - Evaporative emissions (EVAP) system
P0441 - Evaporative emissions control system incorrect purge flow
P0700 - Transmission control system malfuntion

I did some research before I posted this, and some people replaced the wheel speed sensors, and other various sensors, but no one really had a definite answer as to what fixed their problem.

When the car was in first, it seemed to drive fine, no odd or weird noises, didn't stumble or hesitate when I was at stop signs, and it wasn't slipping when I took off from the stop signs.

About 2 month ago, my radiator took a leaf spring juice on me. Had the transmission flushed, radiator and thermostat was replaced. Ever since that happened, the cars shifting seemed to be a little harder, not as smooth as it used to be.

Can you help me please? When the above happened a couple months ago, the dealership wanted to rebuild the transmission for a cost of $2600 (they quoted me $4750 for all total repairs ) so I'm hoping that this isn't catching up to me, but I'm afriad it might have to happen...

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 Post subject: Re: Error codes P0440 P0441 P0700 car will not shift out of 1st
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:27 pm 
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Your issues is with the 0700 code and not the other 2.

I have had 0441 code before and yet again and it doesnt effect anything on the car other than emissions.

Not sure if its a problem with the tranny its self or if its an issue with the computer though. Im not too up to speed on ATX Neons.

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 Post subject: Re: Error codes P0440 P0441 P0700 car will not shift out of 1st
PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:18 pm 
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yeah your trannies probally in limp if the dealer wanted to rebuild it theres a problem you need a scanner to pull the trans code p0700 just tells you theres a code in the tcm doesnt tell you whats wrong

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 Post subject: Re: Error codes P0440 P0441 P0700 car will not shift out of 1st
PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:54 pm 
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I don't think it's limp. When I was in limp, I couldn't get the engine to rev much above 2000 rpm. Mine's a manual, so the shifting is different, but I think the point of limp mode is to keep the engine running low so as not to exacerbate any existing problems by blowing up the engine. His is revving high, just not shifting.

But I agree with everything else you said. Sounds like a dealer needs to take a look and see what's throwing codes.


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 Post subject: Re: Error codes P0440 P0441 P0700 car will not shift out of 1st
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:20 pm 
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you might be right not positive some cars allow full operation but just limit you to second usually

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 Post subject: Re: Error codes P0440 P0441 P0700 car will not shift out of 1st
PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:11 pm 
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I got a call about the car today...

Shift solenoid B has malfunctioned, and the car now only stays in second gear. The internal transmission cooler failed, and allowed radiator fluid into the trans. This is why the transmission now has a frothy milky white red color to it.

Transmission needs to be rebuilt with a brand new torque convertor. Everything in the transmission is being replaced with new parts, from clutches to servos...

$1750 is my repair bill...

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 Post subject: Re: Error codes P0440 P0441 P0700 car will not shift out of 1st
PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:45 am 
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Yuck. Bad luck man. :shock: Of course, you could always use this opportunity to put in a manual transmission. :good:


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 Post subject: Re: Error codes P0440 P0441 P0700 car will not shift out of 1st
PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:10 pm 
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I thought about it. But I decide to get the transmission rebuilt, and sell the car. I'm finally getting the car I actually want...

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 Post subject: Re: Error codes P0440 P0441 P0700 car will not shift out of 1st
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:18 pm 
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I have some good news!

The car was towed to the dealership, its going to be covered under the 7/70 powertrain warranty even though the car is over by 3500 miles. I got a number for the customer advisory board, spoke with the manager, explained my situation. In the end, I pay the deductable, and the bill is paid for.

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