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Post subject: spark plugs  Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:11 pm |
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ok, I am trying to find what is the best plug for a sohc srt turboed neon. I want to go a step colder.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:32 pm |
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I'd recommend NGK's. I don't know the part number though. Champions seem to have had some quality issues come up recently. This link should take you to the archive section.
http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?t ... spark+plug
PS. Are you from Altus?
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:35 pm |
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thatnks man. i will look there too. anyone else? and nope i dont live there i live in/near ponca city
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:36 pm |
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95TURBOMAN wrote: thatnks man. i will look there too. anyone else? and nope i dont live there i live in/near ponca city
Just curious. I just got back from spending 2 weeks there. Saw quite a few modded neons running around.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:11 pm |
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BUMP FOR A PART NUMBER I need the part number for the next step colder ngks for a sohc turbo neon.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:28 pm |
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RC12YC for 1 step colder plugs. Champoins though.
RC14YC is 2 step colder....
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:29 pm |
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thanks for the numbers but i also need the ngk number for the same steps
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:54 pm |
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I bet if you searched for NGK in this forum you'd see the number BKR6ES-11 and BKR7ES-11 posted a million times.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:21 pm |
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Stickied for Archiving....
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:04 pm |
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Well thank you for the part numbers. As for the search I have done a little on that. There are so many archives and old post that it is unreal if you type in more than one word in the search you get both words in the search so I just typed ngk and got 100's of post most of all of were just talking bout ngk's them self. That is not what I needed. I need part numbers by the end of the month so I made a post on it bout month ago and this is what I got. so thank you. I sit on this computer for hours searchng things (it may be the way I do it) and I still wont get the straght answers that I need, but thank you again for the answers
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:24 pm |
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11 is the coldest i have BKR6 in mine right now i think i'm gonna try a lil colder though but the BKR11 is the coldest, i think thats the part number
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:06 pm |
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There is no BKR11. It's hard enough to find a BKR8.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:56 am |
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Riddler wrote: RC12YC for 1 step colder plugs. Champoins though.
RC14YC is 2 step colder....
Riddler
Are you 100% on that - I could swear the larger champ #, the hotter... 
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:43 am |
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for my dohc i run NGK BKR7E which is one step colder and have never had a problem..i believe the number is 6072 ? hope this helps...
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:26 pm |
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97chrysler wrote: Riddler wrote: RC12YC for 1 step colder plugs. Champoins though.
RC14YC is 2 step colder....
Riddler Are you 100% on that - I could swear the larger champ #, the hotter... Cheers Adam Pretty sure. Ran it though the Champion catalogs as well as at Pep Boys, Napa and Canadian Tire. All confirm that those numbers are correct. check for yourself.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:44 pm |
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97chrysler wrote: Riddler wrote: RC12YC for 1 step colder plugs. Champoins though.
RC14YC is 2 step colder....
Riddler Are you 100% on that - I could swear the larger champ #, the hotter... Cheers Adam I agree 97 chrysler
cross refferenced.
BKR5ES-11 = RC14YC
BKR6ES-11 = RC12YC
Oh just found this.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:51 pm |
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i currently have NGK BKR6E and i was wanting to give the NGK BKR7E a go. do i ask for NGK BKR7E as the part number or what should i ask when buying some (i'll be shopping at advance autoparts btw)
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:19 pm |
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gir wrote: i currently have NGK BKR6E and i was wanting to give the NGK BKR7E a go. do i ask for NGK BKR7E as the part number or what should i ask when buying some (i'll be shopping at advance autoparts btw)
Pretty sure the stock plug is a BKR6E or BKR6ES in NGK so yes I personally would recommend running a BKR7E or BKR7ES as it is a step colder than stock and should be fine for most boost levels.
Just go to any automotive store and ask for that part number because it will not come up as a Neon part.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:16 pm |
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BKR7ES-11 ask for stock #2387
BKR6ES-11 ask for stock #5553
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Champion RN9YC are what I used in my turbo daytona. Anyeone try them in a neon?
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:13 am |
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Ghost Neon wrote: Champion RN9YC are what I used in my turbo daytona. Anyeone try them in a neon?
The BKR7ES-11 have a hex size of .6250
Th RN9YC has a hex size of .8125, the size of the spark plug is to big to hit down in the head of a neon.
And that would be the same heat range as a BKR6E.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:19 am |
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I use NGK BKR7E's. Most partsdudes won't get it. NGK stock # is 6097. Also, no BKR11, -11 suffix means wide-gap plug. Not recommended. NGK RACING # IS R5672A7. " If u melt a "9", u need to change mixture, timing, or something. If u melt a "10", u need to change a piston".
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BKR6EIX-ngk's
i just grabbed these on ebay...25.00 shipped.....
any thoughts....?
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:02 am |
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phillupmacrevis wrote: BKR6EIX-ngk's
i just grabbed these on ebay...25.00 shipped.....
any thoughts....?
BKR6EIX? I know BKR6s are about the same as stock so I don't know what your trying to accomplish with them. I run BKR7ES plugs and have had no probs. I switched from 6s to 7s to be on the safe side.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:59 am |
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well i got them because nkgs were recomended to me....but i at that point didnt know part numbers, so i got what it said was for the car...im going turbo soon, but i bought these to eliminate another issue for now......
i think im gettiung bad spark at start up....ive got platnum 4s in now....so i need them out soon!!
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:18 pm |
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My car never ran right with platinum plugs, only copper. Thats what comes from the factory and thats what works the best. NGKs or the stock Champions.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:44 pm |
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what about iridium?
thats what the stupid nkg's i bought are.....
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:04 pm |
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BKR7ES-11 ask for stock #2387
Could I go with a BKR8ES-11???? Do they even make them??? Just wondering because I'll be running high boost, somewhere around 18-23psi. I just want to be safe. I'm getting to the finial steps of my project. Thanks for the help!
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 7:20 am |
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Not sure ECN, you'll have to ask those with engine operating in that range for a specific answer but you want the plug to work like it was designed to. If the plug is too "cold", it won't burn the carbon off of its self and will foul quickly. Pick a plug thats too "hot", it will cause detonation in some cases where extreme engine damage could happen. Its a fine line and you want the right plug for the right operating conditions and it help to be able to read the plug and tell if maybe you might be better off with a different heat range.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:00 pm |
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thanks for the reply! i went ahead and ordered 2 sets of the NGK BKR7ES-11. this way i have spares! as far as BKR8ES-11, they dont exist. so that answers that question! thanks again!
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:10 pm |
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Finally here are some numbers for 8,9 and 10 heat ranges.
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ALPHA NO. STK NO. UNIT TYPE/STYLE
R5672A-8 7173 4 BK-ES
R5672A-9 7405 4 BK-ES
R5672A-10 7942 4 BK-ES
As you can see they are from the BK - ES family, which we usually use.
These are racing plugs so they have no resistor so they might make radio noise but I havn't had that problem.
And these are v-power plugs, they have a little v cut out in the tip.
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i noticed really good miledge and power with the fine point iridium myself over the regular ngk
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they have the iridium in the bkr8eix for 2 ranges cold
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I am currently running ngk BKR8EIX iridium plugs they are awesome I'm running a dohc on 20 pounds daily driven and raced on weekends with no problems. They are a two step colder plug and very safe for high boost only one problem they are hard to find and are about 10 to12$ a plug. However i found a solution on eBay they sell boxes of 6 and 10 plugs with shipping it works out to about 7.75$ per plug and they will get to you faster than if you go through a auto parts place. 
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BKR8EIX - 2668
BKR7EIX - 2667
BKR7E - 6097
BKR6E - 6962
Good luck finging the 8EIX at a part store... its like catching leprechauns.
And for those who missed it, power output is basically identical with copper or Iridium plugs, the difference is mainly in idle quality.
Calling the following stores yielded the appropriate results:
Pepboys - system completely skips over 2667 and 2668, tried to sell me stock garbage plug, not grasping the concept of turbo = hot engine.
Kragen - Read Pepboys results.
Autozone - 2667 came up, but linked to an autolite equivelant plug, got lost when i asked if it was iridium or copper.
Napa - Had 4 sets in stock across the whole country of 8EIX, 8 plugs in Colorado, 8 Plugs in Oregon. $9.20 a plug, 4 day delivery delay.
EBAY = CLICK SHIP WIN DONE $32.99 shiped.
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Wow, this was very helpful, thanks guys!
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Post subject: Re: spark plugs Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:09 pm |
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Got a set of BKR9EIX today at Advance Auto for something like $6 each. They're stock number 2669. Look good--nice short heat path!
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