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um....holy crap....

im sitting here thinking....wow, what if i took that engine, and put it in my 1st gen..wounder what life would be like? id probaby fill my back seat up with extra pants and boxers.

nothing wrong with fantasizing right?

And big friends in court system when you get busted.

Say hello to jail time.

Catch what?? A car that traps over 140 mph in the 1/4 mile.

and i really doubt he has the suspension to handle this power. my guess if he ever took it to the track it would do high 10's at about 145-150.

plus at some point you have to look at the power under the curve on this car. i cant imagine he is staying in boost after shifts. dyno queen. dont get me wrong its still impressive.

The guy is a tool. He constantly argues with Darrell Cox about how much better he is and that AMS owns DCR in every way. I'm waiting for his crank to walk right out of the bed-plate so I can laugh at him.

He won't send it down the track, he's too afraid to break something. But I doubt it would do any better than low 10's. There are a lot of first gens out there that could have his SRT for lunch. It irks me when people dish out cash and buy their way into greatness without ever lifting a finger. Its hard work and knowledge that pays off, not owning a fast car that someone else built for your rich ass.

that whole argue that is going on right now is not saying that ams is better then dcr. there u go again thinking u know everything. yeah ams hasn't designed parts like dcr has for the srt engines but they can build high hp cars just like dcr. if u want to call someone a tool call raven one, that guy ain't got a life so hes on the computer all day starting chit. the bottom line is both companies can build high hp cars. like stated on the srtforums, if another company had the backing that dcr had and the money then they too could and probably would put in the r&d and time to design newer better engine parts. ams and dcr can build some bad *a#S!d^f* cars period.

i am very impressed with what dcr has done with the srt platform but i also am one to say spend the money to play but sometimes the price can just be alittle outrageous..... ams just dynoed 772 with their race head and turbo setup..... and that is very impressive considering the head is only 1800 retail.... with valves springs valve job 1m oversized valves and port..... i have seen tk show up alot here lately and they by far have quoted me the cheapest price yet... i am just glad this thread is starting to grow so all the srt owners can see what is out there and how competitive the srt dealers are....

If you are referring to 4U2NV's head, it is NOT a DCR head, it was purchased from AMS.

..... not even close to a Pro Series DCR Cylinder Head. If it were they would have hit the 800whp mark.

Well sorry Darrell I am going to have to disagree with you on this! You can not come out saying ur head would make more power then the head/motor I got built at AMS, bc for one you have no idea what is done to my head.

I've got the money and the time and a head. Want to bet, that ours makes more power? AMS has not made 1/2 as much horsepower per cubic inch than I ever have. I know what is out there and I will say it again "not even close". "We make more horsepower in the burnout than most people do down a track."

Well Darrell the statement I said was not a statement to start any *a#S!d^f* but a plain outright FACT. Like I said you dont know what is done to my head so you still can not compare!

Just bc you have a all out 1400hp race car doesnt mean everything you do is the BEST IN THE WORLD. Yes you do offer some good products but not the best in everything you have to offer just bc the parts got the job done for you.

I know you and AMS may not be best buds, bc you have told me this urself, but lets not make this into a arguement due to that fact.

Please feel free to take this to PM if you would like.

But it sounds to me like you talking out ur ass, like you did on that INTAKE MANIFOLD!

The intake. I just did not want to contrbute to someone wanting to push there crank out off the block knowing you dont have crank straps and is to dumb to listen to someone that has the most experience at every power level. Its just a matter of time. And also people told me not to send you one.

If you gonna be dumb, then you better be tough!
They end up here everytime after all else fells!

Thanks
DCR
Worlds Quickest and Fastest SRT-4

No one is crying here. You are just throwing out *a#S!d^f* You know damn well your intake manifold was not even close to being done. Bc you cant seem to get the welds right or the fitment on them correct. But you talked over your head and tried to offer me something that you knew you counldnt come through with. But you had to be childish and ignore my calls or messages and not fess up like a man on how you couldnt pull through. I had to have Aaronneon come through and tell me his self you talked out your ass!

Why did you ignore my questions?

This is so stupid this thread has came to this. Darrell I honestly thought u where a lil better then this, but I should have listened to people on how you really are. This also proves that is *a#S!d^f* on what you said how you change ur business practices and customer service to all your customers, bc u obviously have a problem with me for no valid reason.

You have a problem with me only bc I said you cant compare your head to AMS and say urs is better. Then I see ur lil mad bc I didnt want to go with ur strap kit. This is my car and I make the choices on what I want for it.

Hey now. I dont think this is cool that you brought me up in this. I never said Darrell was talking out of his ass. You cant blame him that the manifold wasnt done.

Also the welds WERE never an issue on the manifolds and the fitment is SUPER tight so it was a task to get it just right. Hence why there isnt anyone else out there thats makes a direct fit. Besides they are done finally anyhow.

And just to set the record straight, Darrell was told not to send you a manifold at this time. It wasnt anything against you...but there were ALOT of rumors that AMS was going to be making a manifold for the car. This has since been proven wrong, but I cant blame Darrell for being worried about sending you a manifold before anyone else, just to have it copied...or ideas taken from. Now I am not saying that would have happened, but you have to be cautious in this game.

Im also alittle upset that you guys are fighting about this. Chris we bent over backwards to help you get your parts to fix your car. Which without Darrell...you most likely wouldnt have EVER done. AMS had months to fix it and didnt.


You fockers need to knock this *a#S!d^f* off right now. Its *a#S!d^f*



... You're right, Mike. There was NO discussion of AMS vs DCR anywhere in that thread, and I don't have any clue what I'm talking about, although its kinda hard to 'act' when you're only reading whats right in front of your face. The arguement might not be about DCR vs AMS NOW, and it may not have been from the mouths of those people themselves, but there was heavy debate about DCR vs AMS in that thread. I know you've read it, because I see you've posted in it.

Btw, yes Raven is a tool as well. Chris is also, but not because of the fact he argued with Darrell. I just think some of the decisions he has made recently weren't the brightest, and some form of failure is almost completely immnent. He is ignoring the advice of those 'more informed' only to do what he wants and prove to others he can do it. If someone told you to use a bungie cord when jumping off of the bridge, would you honestly say "no, this rope will be fine".

Yes, AMS and DCR can both build badass cars, but there's a difference between a dyno queen and a trailer queen. High HP numbers mean nothing unless you know how to put it to the ground, you should know that as much as anyone else. Anyone with money and knowledge can build a high HP engine and throw it on an engine dyno for impressive numbers. The guys that go the extra step and put it into a car heavily modified to put those numbers to the pavement are the real heroes.

Not trying to say you're wrong, Mike, and I'm not trying to say I'm right. We obviously have different viewpoints on the matter so I can't argue with you about what you got out of it..

Jeesh guys...all I wanted to do was post up this very nice, fast SRT, and you guys gotta start an arguement...maybe it was too much to ask for everyone to be nice and just post comments about it...

Come one now, this is the org. Expected

riddle me this how many ams built srt 4's are running around compared to dcr built srt 4's