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Hey Everyone,

We are going to produce some custom turbo pistons, and if we can spark some interest Turbo Dyanmx will be more than willing to afford a special price as a group buy or even individually for a limited time.

They will be available in any bore size, any compression ratio, stock or aftermarket pin dia, and come with double spiral locks. We also get a killer deal on total seal if we want to make a package deal.



Rough est. $ 350.00 w/o rings
$ 390.00 w/ rings

Lets see how many people are interested and I will look at the pricing some more. You can contact us via e-mail, PM or by phone anytime.

Contact@turbodynamx.net

Thanks,
Michael J. Sanders
General Manager/President
Turbo Dynamx, Inc.
1-248-336-2862

12.5:1, 40 over for a 2.4 with rings but NOT with Total Seal rings.

No, not turbo but if you can make a quality piston in my size and in that price range I'm interested. Otherwise I'm faced with buying a bunch of sets from Wiseco and then having to sell off all but the one set I need. 40 over in that compression is "custom" work for Wiseco and they won't do one set.

What or whos forging do you start with?

Bob

The piston manufacture is DRP (Diamond Racing Products). They get there import forging from Weisco. Its a 2618 material that's used in Power adder applications, Turbo, Nitrous, blower etc....

Jeff- I am not opposed to making a 12.5:1 piston I just need to gather some specific information from you. Give me a call so we can work out the details.


Thanks,
Michael J. Sanders
Turbo Dynamx, Inc.
1-248-336-2862

I talked to diamond at the PRI show. They seem like a good company that wants to get into the small displacement scene. They've done V-8 stuff for a long time.

Bob

Very True, We are happy with the quality product they turn out. I myself am sure alot of N/A and Turbo neon enthusiasts will benifit from this discounted buy. Also it will make alot of the turbo engines alot more safe and manageable when turning up the boost.

Here is one that's running our design at 8.5:1 w/18psi.




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If any one is interested in a set of piston's please contact us and we will figure out what you need and get the ball rolling for you ASAP.

Thank you!
Michael J. Sanders
Turbo Dynamx, Inc.
1-248-336-2862

What the lowest turbo ratio available? And would yall be able to supply some good rods to hold up with the pistons?

I can make any ratio that is safe for your application I personally run 7.8:1 w/ 30psi and have no problems. I have available Eagle H beam rods with the upgraded ARP bolts , and Crower billet

Eagle$340.00

Crower$ 720.00

Michael J. Sanders
Turbo Dynamx, Inc.
1-248-336-2862

Damn i wish i was in the market right now.. That would be a killer deal on pistons and rods..

I'm looking for 10.5-11:1 compression in a 60 overbore for my 2.4, can you help me out too?

'll be running low boost until I upgrade from my stock SRT-4 Turbo on my SOHC Neon, or soon to be. I'm just wondering what would be the best ratio?

If it helps any ive talked to mike a few times on the phone and he's a smart guy, I was going to get some 2.4 pistons made up but that project like all my projects took a Shat !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just for clarification, is this a feeler post or are you ready to produce them? If you are, what would be the turn around time? I *might* need some 20 over 2.4L 8.8:1s fairly soon.

Chuckles RB- I can make the pistons to your spec of 10.5:1 in a .060 oversize no problem at all. I just need to get some info from you Give me a call or PM and we can go over the info.

BadloNeon- I am thinking with your set up and the info you have supplied 8.5:1 is safe and will produce a good responsive Torq band while running low boost. I built a 2.0L that runs 20psi with that ration with no problems.

Awsome ears- Thanks for the good word, If you do end up needing those piston's let us know.

Fuel- We are ready and willing to start taking orders. We will just need to go over your engine specs ,and we can start bluprinting the piston. The average turnaround time is 2 - 2.5 weeks for manufacturing.

If there are any more questions contact Us via PM , e-mail or by Phone.

Thanks Again,

Michael J. Sanders
Turbo Dynamx, Inc.
1-248-336-2862

Ok, that's not bad. I'm waiting on the machine shop to get back to me on the condition of the block. If it does need to be bored out, I'll probably be in touch.

Ok, no problem just let me know, Also a word of advise...If they are going to bore and hone it I would reccomend that you get the pistons first so they can hone the block to the piston spec. Its easier and there is less room for error that way, but if its not an option just have them give you the average bore dia. to the Tenth (.0001)

If you have anymore question ...shoot..lol


-Mike
Turbo Dynamx, Inc.

ok here is a question 9.2:1 in standard bore?

Hello,

9.2:1 Is no problem at all thats basicly a flat top with valve reliefs, stock gasket, and stock chamber.


If anyone else is wondering I can make any ratio you request as long as your combo will allow it. That means a wide range from 5.1:1 dish..lol all the way to 14.1:1 I will just need some basic engine specs.

-Mike
Turbo Dynamx, Inc.
1-248-336-2862

I'd still rather use a wiseco final production, cheaper, and you get free molydb coatings.

Hey Carbon,

If it makes you feel any better, the forgings that Diamond gets are from weisco! They also machine them on a $500,000.00 5 Axis Fe-dell CNC which holds High speed tolerance to .00001 " with minimal deflection. I believe the neon piston to wall spec is .0035 -.004 depending on application and power additive levels. Seems like a decent product to me.Lets compare tolerance by visual aid...lol

.004
.00001

Feel better now


Michael J. Sanders
Turbo Dynamx, Inc.
1-248-336-2862

I agree these seem to be a nice piece and i would pick up a set if i had the $

I have spoken, at length, with mike on the phone.

1: He has already gone the extra mile with me over the past 2 days (best neon vendor I have worked with yet).

2: These are not "Average" bore size pistons, they are customs so they *will* fit right if you get the block measured.

3: For Pistons,Rods,Rings,Rod Bearings,Main Bearings,Lower Gasket set, Upper Gasket set, Oil Pump, smoothing the valve relefs and coating pistons, I got a price comprable to the bigger vendors for more stuff. You do the math.

I just got back into town. Is this deal still going on?

The deal is still available, give us a call and we can go over the details.

Thanks,

Michael J. Sanders
Turbo Dynamx, Inc.
1-248-336-2862
contact@turbodynamx.net

Buyer Beware!!!

I ordered parts from Mr. Sanders early July, with full payment made in late July. The pistons had to be custom made and ported, then sent to get a thermal coating put on the to a outsourced company. The parts were supposed to be shipped approximatly 10 September 2005. About 25 September 2005 I checked my mail box and since then everday, nothing has shown up.
I started calling daily and sending PMs and Emails, not once has Mike answered the phone, and I received only 1 PM in response to my attemts at contact.
The PM he sent back was just full of excuses like : "I fired my secretary, so betwene answering the phone and working in the shop I have fallen a little behind". Mike, you don't answer your phone so how could that make you fall behind.

Mike is very knowledgable about turbos and he is a great salesman, however obviously he has not gotten his affairs in order enough to keep a full race neon running, run a shop, and deal with delivery of custom parts. Has anyone gotten anything that they ordered from Mike yet?

So you know, since your not answering emails nor PMs, and still wont answer the phone. Mike, my lawyer has done the paperwork, the civil suit is in the mail and should arrive in MI within 10 days. I am a resident and will be home soon, hopefully we can get together and sort this out of court.

I forgot to add:

I would rather not have to fly from Germany to MI when I only have about 6 weeks left before I go to Iraq....

Mike has known that I am on a finite timeline for awhile now, and still, knowing that my car will sit now for about 18 months total because he could not be bothered to send me the parts.

Thanks Mike, I will send you the list of everything I have to replace when I get back from Iraq, just so you know what sitting for 15 months more than it should have will end up costing me.

deleted due to bad taste on my part

PM Sent to Robert,

But in my defense..... I just got the piston's back from the coaters this last Friday wich I have a recipt of delivery marked the 30th of sept. In this case I was at the mercy of the coating manufacture and I appologize for the delay. I know we where on a tight schedual for this delivery, and I did everything I could to make it happen. I have them reboxed along with the rest of his parts that he wanted to go at the same time to save frieght and they will be leaving tomorrow priority air to Germany.

Thanks,

Michael J. Sanders
General Manager/President
Turbo Dynamx, Inc.

Tomorrow has come and gone.....

Nope, still no tracking number, im so surprised :/

im lookin for pistons in high compression for an all motor nagnum setup.

the pistons need to clear the crane 14 cam. highest compression possible cuz im not using juice. let me know what it is i was thinkin 13.5:1? pm me.

omg lol your going to buy from this guy?!?!!?!? read the damn thread you wont get your parts after payment.

R/T-T>Honduh i hope you dont get your parts for another YEAR, because all you do is bitch a whine.

seriously. somebody's life must be nothing but drama.

one minute its "best vendor ever" the next its "worst vendor ever"

i've personally met mike, and i've seen first hand the work that TurboDynamx does. Lets just say when I re-do my motor i'm taking it to his shop. Great guy & great work.

I would just like to add a little here I paid for my pistons on August 29 and was previously told that it would take 3 weeks. I have been in E-mail contact only (phones shut off because of some problem with SBC was told) I am not trying to be critical of him but have been told 2 1/2 weeks ago that pistons should be done during that week. Hopefully I will recieve my order but am getting increasingly alarmed with each passing day I just think that Mike needs to not be putting time promises that can't be met. (MIKE how is my order coming?)

Here is my take on this.

There Custom so there being made from a big block of Aluminum.

Mike should say 2 weeks to a Month just so the buyer knows. Ive talked to him and he's a cool guy.

When I sell my dashes I say 14 - 30 days just incase some crap comes up.

Im not saying the guys that are waiting are being impatient im just mentioning he should bump up the time limit to save his but.

Anyways ignoreing the flame bait..

Mike is a knowledgable guy, I have never said hes not.
I think something is wrong with this custom work deal and I only hope comes forward with what the problem is.

Obviously he's capable of building fast cars, as there are mulitple Turbodymanx.net built cars out there in 11-12s.

Only problem I have is that he knew I was leaving for Iraq in November, I ordered in JUNE, was told 2-3 weeks on pistons, 1 week on the work to smooth out the valve releifs, and 10 days or so for the coating. Thats what, 5 weeks roughly. Its been 10 almost and he has completely ceased any form of communication.

When I posted that he was a great vendor, my entire experience dealing with him was impecable, and I hope it is for others in the future, Neons in general are hurting for aftermarket companies as it is.

For all concerned who have not received thier parts, I went to the Army lawyer today and he and I sat down and found out some information for you, take it and do whatever you see fit, here it is:

Micheal J Sanders has no previous arrests in Michigan.

His Mail box at contact@turbodynamx.net is full and will autoreject any mail you send to him.

If you want to make a criminal case out of it go to: http://www.econsumer.gov/english/
and file your complaint.

Now on my own, here is what I found today:

I ran his phone number and here is what was returned-

Results for Phone Number
248-336-2862
Area Code 248
Prefix 336
City ROYAL OAK
State Michigan
Primary ZIP Code 48067
Secondary ZIP Code 48073
Public Data Click here for more information
Country United States of America
County Name (FIPS Code) OAKLAND ( 26125 )
Time Zone (Local Time) Eastern ( 10/13/2005 11:10:51 AM )
Metro Area (Code) DETROIT-ANN ARBOR-FLINT, MI ( 2162 )
Primary Metro Area (Code) DETROIT, MI ( 2160 )
# of Businesses in Prefix 135



He makes it seem like he has dissapeared off the face of the planet, then he tries to sell cododgeneon a fuel system setup.... cododgeneon, be warned.

Next to forward all this to the Pontiac and Oakland Police Department.

FYI - I have been in contact with some personal freinds/customers of Mike's who live in the Detroit area. They have spoken with him in person and he is still waiting on the pistons from DRP. Apparently, they are taking an insane amount of time to make their pistons and Mike is stuck until they are done. He admits to less-than-ideal communication, but insists that everyone will get their parts and no one is getting ripped off.

I know it's hard, but we just need to keep testing our patience. Maybe we can all call DRP and complain about their unreasonable times instead of Mike's.

I hope this puts some people at ease.

I'll sit on my money and boost on my stock internals till I see how all this works out and then I'll make my decision.

I have had the same problem with DRP and I bought my pistons through some one other than Mike. So I can see the hold up being very legit. Just my 2 cents

Ken