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 Post subject: 89 Spirit w/96 2.4Turbo *work in progress*
PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:43 pm 
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My name is Matt, I have a 1989 Dodge Spirit that I have been working on for some time it was a 2.5 SOHC Turbo car but it is almost a 2.4 Dohc Turbo now. I wanted to build a beast of a sleeper, but still look good. This car has no radio, wipers, heat or a/c because I dont need that garbage in MI. It will have functioning pwr steering. I have big plans for the car and it should be running soon(well as soon as it gets warm again)

This project has been labor intensive as well as info intensive. I have learned many things about older TD's, neons, 2.4's, and SRT4's. Well I found most of my info for my setup on these sites:
http://forums.neons.org/
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/index.php?
http://www.turbododge.com/forums/
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/index.php

I have modified almost everything on the car
Check it out!(I know that the camera/pics suck)

Test fitting the motor in car
http://www.turbododge.com/forums/showth ... p?t=114648
This is the basic update w/ pics
http://www.turbododge.com/forums/showth ... p?t=120578
Here is the Motor half done pics w/ modified Srt oiling setup
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6642
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6060

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Engine:
96 Caravan 2.4,Pauter Rods and Weisco pistons(~9:1CR)
Scraper/windage tray, balanced
Lonewolf Ported head and 2.0 cams
Modified Srt oiling
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Turbo+ Exhaust:
Custom 3" stainless exhaust
SC6152E turbo and Tial 38mm waste-gate.
Homemade Header
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Electronics:

SDS Em4-4F,75lb injectors
MSD Dis 2
Innovate Motorsports LC-1 and LMA-3
E-Boost2 boost controller
Progressive Meth injection(10g/hr nozzle)
Custom swaped digital dash
Sony VIO laptop to datalog
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Trans:
96 3spd auto
RMVB, 4000rpm Stall Converter
OBX/custom spacer
3.22 final for now looking for 1.22 transfers to get 3.72
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Suspension + Brakes+ Tires:
All poly bushings(control arms, sway bar,trailing arm)
Front: Koni coilovers w/ 350lb springs
11" vented brakes w/ Hawk pads and braided lines
Rear:Koni adj shocks, 450lb springs, custom adj top perches
11" vented rotors stock pads(because of prop valve)and braided lines
Adj Solid Panhard bar, solid rear axle
D150 truck Master cylinder w/ Super Blue fluid

Longer wheel studs
Front: Nitto 555R 245/45/17 DR's for street, then M&H 24.5x8.5" slicks on kosei K1's
Rear:Nitto 555 235/45/17
Wheels 17x7.5" +35mm offset
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Custom Stuff:
Rear suspension and new rear frame brace and shock tower brace
Fuel tank modified for 3/8 line into the tank and Walbro External fuel pump
Custom rear trans/engine brace
Custom center counsel for hand brake also gauge cluster mounting
Weight reductions all around
Welded and gusseted K frame
Cut the spare tire well and welded in a flat piece
All new brake lines
Custom firewall that is moved back ~8" from factory
Custom turbo manifold
Adapter for oil filter to fit huge Mustang oil filter

Finally got it in!, but still waiting to finish the exhaust, then take the temporary VC off and put this one on
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At this point I am almost done for the year, just a few things on nice Days.
Things left to do:
finish the wiring, finish installling and plumbing things, repaint the hood(got scratched bad), put the front clip on and hit the road, break it it and tune it
Then hit the track and buy some slicks

lmk what you think

I also want to Thank Kevin, Jeff, Erik, Jeff B,Ken, My dad, and others that help me along the way


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Sounds like a hell of a setup. Talk about a sleeper. :D

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nice,sounds like it should be a hell of a fun car when done 8O

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BCoN wrote:
Sounds like a hell of a setup. Talk about a sleeper. :D


Thats what I'm going for. Its a sleeper except for the exhaustand blow off valve

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why dont you post pictures in this thread so we dont have to join the dodge forum to see them.

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^^^Agreed. :(

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NO! thats not an intercooler, its my CUSTOM front mount intake! :lol: :twisted:

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where do I find out how to do that?

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you can go to imageshack.net (i think), then host them. take the "Direct link to image" and post it on here surounding the link with [img]paste%20your%20link%20here[/img].

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photobucket works great also

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thanks now it looks better

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awesome...keep us updated.

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I put some new pics up of the trans because I got the diff ready and painted the case, nice and clean. I also finally got the Koni's coilover ready on the front and the big tires that barely clear the frame/fender, but they look to hit the trans when turned all the way to the right(spacers needed)

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VERY IMPRESSIVE WORK! Keep it up and US updated. :wink:

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NO! thats not an intercooler, its my CUSTOM front mount intake! :lol: :twisted:

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What I want to know is when is it going to be doing this. Image[/img]

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I love that pic, I haven't seen it w/ the DODGE on the grill till last week

I have a lot of wiring/plumbing to do, but the Engine/Trans should be in this weekend

Soon enough we will have some comparison info to share

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Very cool car!
I like it all except the atx, but that's just personal preference. Can't wait to see it running.

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sweet build up dude... looks like fun.

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Great job so far!

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I'll put some more pics up here in a bit. I droped it in and had a few minor things to modify, like the Caravan front mount bracket didn't clear the SRT oil pan so I had to cut a notch in it. Also I had to flip the turbo 180* to have room for an air filter and have a better shot for the oil drain and exhaust.

Just have to finish the down pipe(need to get a tighter 3" bend to clear) and put the accessories on and such)

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This is awesome. The wife and I were just talking about doing a 2.4L swap into our 87 Turbo Omni.

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wow this i sweet.

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This is awesome. The wife and I were just talking about doing a 2.4L swap into our 87 Turbo Omni.


shhhhh people will think i'm kewl

I really like your spirit, we have the "custom digital dash" in our omni, ppl look at it and go WTF?


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Nice car man.. and I lol'ed at the last post.


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Nice car man.. and I lol'ed at the last post.


HAHA!

SpeedEuphoria: Is it me or did you recess part of the firewall?

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rb70383 wrote:
SpeedEuphoria: Is it me or did you recess part of the firewall?


Yeah I cut it out and took all the stuff out from behind the dash. I had ~8" of room so I made a new one that sits ~7.5" back farther than stock. This was because I was planning on running this header. I had to curve it around the gas pedal so I have barely enough room to get my foot in there(I also melted the rubber under the pedal when it caught fire while I was welding it in, had to get a new one).

So far I would do a couple things differently, but thats life and I am still satisfied at this point. Thanks for all the complements and thanks to the few who have already done the swap and helped greatly w/ misc odds and ends. I learn fast and this is my 1st build, shoot the wheelwells and firewall was the 1st things I ever welded once I bought my welder.



well got the down pipe tacked in place and the dump needs another peice to turn it out under the car. Also hooked up the pwr steering and belt. Still got to modify things to get the alt and Indy intake to go on and get the IC pipes ran, I orderd a custom set of Magnecor wires that should be here Friday

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 Post subject: It Runs!
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well after getting all the relays hooked up and the LC-1 and LMA-3 hooked to the computer, finishing the plumbing ect..

IT Runs, I had to get a battery charger to keep the power up because the alt is not wired in yet and I have a small Odeyessey PC680 battery.

I still have lots to do, just wanted to get it started and idling(wanted to set the timing as well), let it warm up then then shut it down.

Now I can finalize the wiring, hook up the meth injection, boost controler, put the front clip back on, put the interior and seats in and get the 3" exhaust to fit over the rear axle and put the muffler on
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Nice. OK a question: where did you get your plug wires. I'm looking at a Hybrid conversion, but not sure on where to get a set of neon ended plug wires.

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I called Magnecor and they do custom wire sets. I also here that Aurora makes good wires also and can make you whatever you want.

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Nice overflow bottle, coke or pepsi?

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neon97_pr wrote:
Nice overflow bottle, coke or pepsi?

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I figured since this is my P log, I would put up some of the nasty before pics
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such a nice engine bay and such a rats nest of wires? im sure you will clean them up....keep up the good work.

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monday wrote:
such a nice engine bay and such a rats nest of wires? im sure you will clean them up....keep up the good work.


yeah I just wanted to make sure it ran, I have even more of a rats nest over on the pass side near teh battery because of all the relays and such. I will loom it all up after I get the wires the correct length. Then I have to get another dipstick and modify the throttle cable bracket(the hood wont go on untill I fix these). Put the rest back together outside and in(also have a little wiring to clean up inside)

But we finally got winter here, so I'm on hold to late March and should be done by April

I was just very happy to here the thing run after not driving it in over 3 years(lack of funds, then I went crazy and redid/modified everything)

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What's new on this project? Haven't seen an update in months.

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Finally took her for a spin(well a couple)

Made sure the electronics were working good. Did a couple of datalogs while seating the rings. It has a high idle that I need to work on, the idle screw is all the way out, so not sure where to go next. Made sure the trans shifted fine, which it does. The map log isnt quite what I want yet(to compare w/ the SDS for tunning), have to get the voltage points for the 3 bar.

The wastegate spring is ~7psi(I think, its off ebay so you never know). It gets there fast and pulls good. I drove it how it sits in these pics to make sure things are working properly. Just have to put the front clip on and do some tiding/finishing to the interior.

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I have yet to hook up the meth injection or the boost controller.

The exhaust is loud and I need to add another muffler in the middle.

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That thing is comin' along really well!
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this is the coolest car Ive ever seen. I will now compare every sleeper/spirit/2.4 swap/turbo anything to this build!

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Looks awesome.
Your car is probably one of the few Spirits/Shadows Id drive.

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Well it was supposed to be raining today w/ thunderstorms, but since it looks clear I went for a drive.

I'm finally making some progress, turned the boost up and it comes to life. Still have a 5psi spring in the wg, seems to hold steady @14psi. The meth kicks on @~12psi and pegs the wideband rich.

3.17FD and 245/45R17 Nitto Drag Radials start spinning when boost hits(not hard but there clawing at the pavement) then grip and its time to shift(6500 for now). I have like 32 psi in the tires for street driving. It gets up to 100mph pretty quick. My EGT's are a little high till the meth kicks on then drop at least 100deg. The A/F is rich, worked on that some and got it to just under 11:1 then an IC hose poped off and I went home.

At least I finally get to have some fun, now just need to drive around some more, lean it out a tad, add some timing back in and turn the wick up to 20psi.
Should be fun, I still have a smile on my face after 3years w/o boost. I need to get to the track but the stupid Harley Davidson/Michigan Chopper Fest is there this weekend.

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