Help me settle a bet. Was the SRT4 a trim level of Neon?

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Help me settle a bet. Was the SRT4 a trim level of Neon?

Post by ThatOneDJ » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:40 pm

I have a conflict with some friends on another message board. They are convinced that the SRT4 is a trim level of the Neon, and I think that the SRT4 was it's own model to its self. I posted window stickers showing that the model is SRT4, not Neon SRT4.

I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. IIRC, Dodge omitted the Neon tag from this car to set it apart from it's Neon platform brethren.

Any thoughts?

Neon SRT4 or Dodge SRT4?

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Post by aneonrider » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:42 pm

The SRT-4 is a trim level of the Neon.
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Post by ThatOneDJ » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:44 pm

Can you tell me why the word Neon does not show up on the car or the documents that come with the car?

And thanks for the speedy reply!

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Post by aneonrider » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:47 pm

Becuase Dodge wanted to distance itself from the Neon name... much like why they dropped the Neon name in Canada by '03 & called it the SX.
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Post by ThatOneDJ » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:49 pm

Thank you, sir. I stand corrected.

But did Dodge ever call the car a Neon? If so, where? I am confused now.

I have a 2005 Dodge Neon dealer brochure and here is what it lists..

* Highline - 2000-2001
* ES - 2000-2002
* SE - 2001-2005
* ACR - 2001-2002
* R/T - 2001-2004
* base - 2002
* S - 2002
* SXT - 2002-2005

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Post by MCarp22 » Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:12 am

The 5th digit of the vin which specifies the model is the same letter = S. So regardless of what marketing says the car is a neon.
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Post by Dirty-96 » Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:18 pm

Neon FTW! (or FTL! depending how you look at it)

I personally have no problem admitting it's a Neon.. only after I say it's an SRT-4 and everyone looks at me like I'm from Mars...
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Post by Syrup » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:30 am

You won't get as big of a reaction over here as the thread you started @ srtboards, its still a neon no matter what forum you post on.

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Re: Help me settle a bet. Was the SRT4 a trim level of Neon

Post by xxxxxx56 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:35 am

I think everyone realizes that it is a Neon, that's not what is at question. The question is..."Was the car marketed as a trim level of the Neon or as a stand alone car?"

Answer...It was not marketed as a trim level of the Neon, it was a stand alone model. There are numerous sources to prove this (original press release, Dodge brochures, window stickers, etc)

Again, I am not saying that it is not a Neon. It just was not marketed as a trim level of the Neon brand. This has been the only SRT model to be marketed as such.

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Post by sirking » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:03 pm

dodge never marketed it as a trim level. but just like xxxxxx56 said we all know its a damn neon. If your arguing with someone just bring up a photo of a 2nd gen (03-05) and bring up a photo of a srt.


What i dont understand is, if the srt 4 is infact a neon, why dodge didn't market it as a neon srt 4. They market the viper srt-10, the charger srt-8, etc. etc. Doesn't make alot of sense to me, and its pretty stupid in my book when people argue that the srt 4 isn't a neon.
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Post by dajokerx2 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:08 pm

Because you're typical consumer does not think of performance when they hear "neon"; especially the younger generation. They think of an economy car that at one point had a bad rep for head gasket failure and does extremely poor in crash tests. Distancing the srt-4 model away from the neon was to boost sales of the PL based srt-4.
Also Dodge does call it a neon in the service manual. So do many parts places all over the country to include your local stores as well as online sites. And like someone previously said; 5th digit S ='s neon 8th digit S ='s 2.4l turbo.
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Post by Syrup » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:49 am

The photo I made up and posted seamed to settle the argument on the srtforums.

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Also, if the srt was a stand alone 'line', and not a trim package, the vin would reflect that, and it doesn't

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Post by White Heat » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:32 am

Stand alone. The vin means nothing in this case. You could not order a Neon and upgrade to a SRT-4 package. You could, however, upgrade to a SRT-4 Design package. Nowhere on my SRT-4 does it say Neon, but I know it's a Neon and 99% of people have no idea what a SRT-4 is so I tell them it's a Neon. Big whoop :P

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Post by Cmac » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:45 am

it is a neon yes, but it was a product line of the ACR.... witch is the catch 22 they say its not a neon its an ACR well the ACR is a neon.... you figure it out.

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Post by Ninjaneonturtle » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:50 am

My 2005 Dealer brochure for the Neon includes the SRT-4 in it. Dodge marketed it as a neon, the only reason why they attempted to market it as just the SRT-4 is because obviously it was getting replaced in a few years and didn't want the name to stick with neon.

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Post by JeffB#2 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:53 am

It's a PL body. PL=Neon. They all came down the same assembly line. Those that think it's not a Neon body should just get over it. A Hemi Cuda is still a Barracuda.

Who cares anyway? These arguments are stupid.
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