1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by kberjian » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:38 am

Finished welding the front crossmember up on the top side.
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Reinstalled the engine/transmission and rear suspension. Bolted up some slicks to it to see how they would fit.
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Dropped the body back on to see how the clearances look with the adjusted frame. It gave me about 1.5" of clearance under the body to the frame and engine. Only problem was the slicks do not fit under the fender.... Since the tires I run in the end will be that wide, I will be widening the fenders by 1.5" by adding in a strip at the top of the crown.
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by kberjian » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:15 pm

I attacked widening one of the fenders last night. I ended up going with a 2.5" addition that was added in along the flattest portion of the fender. Masked out the straight line, cut it apart, tacked in additional material while struggling to form it correctly. I am pretty happy with how this one turned out. I will need to add the bead roll along the bottom of the back of it as well. This leaves a solid 3/4" clearance for the tires on the inside. I might get wider slicks/tires to fill it up more.
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by joesf » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:16 pm

Looks good with 2.5".
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by INVUJerry » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:40 pm

Can you get a side picture of the tire/wheel with the extended fender?
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by kberjian » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:42 am

INVUJerry wrote:Can you get a side picture of the tire/wheel with the extended fender?
These work? I think I should get a bigger OD tire as well to better fill up the huge wheel wells. The stock car came with 24" rims.... they were wood though.

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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by Mitsuru » Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:28 am

If those steelies are 14" rims it might be better to try a 16" steel rim with a decent
size side wall about the same as what is on the 14" that way it will look as though
it could be a standard setup when it's not. Plus the more side wall you have the
softer the ride.

It's a thought/suggestion that most might say no to but remember the more you let
people know that its not standard by low profile tyres and rims and blinging it up etc
the more likely you will get the idiots wanting to nick it!

Go understated then burn them! :yes:

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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by kberjian » Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:48 am

Mitsuru wrote:If those steelies are 14" rims it might be better to try a 16" steel rim with a decent
size side wall about the same as what is on the 14" that way it will look as though
it could be a standard setup when it's not. Plus the more side wall you have the
softer the ride.

It's a thought/suggestion that most might say no to but remember the more you let
people know that its not standard by low profile tyres and rims and blinging it up etc
the more likely you will get the idiots wanting to nick it!

Go understated then burn them! :yes:
Those rims are 15" rims that fit the SRT-4 brakes/calipers. I think I will end up withh a 17" rim and a fairly beefy sidewall for street tires and 16" rims for the slicks. I will need all the sidewall I can for comfort reasons as the suspension is firm, and the seats are hard mounted to the frame with only 1" of foam on them.

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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by INVUJerry » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:16 am

I'm assuming those are Pt steelies with 24.5x8.5 slicks?

You could probably get away with a 255/50/17, which is about a 27" tall tire, def give more sidewall and look beefy as hell.

The only slick sizes I can find in 16's are HUGE. But, a 275/55/16 drag radial will probably work great for you.
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by Wernlia » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:53 am

INVUJerry wrote:But, a 275/55/16 drag radial will probably work great for you.
Yes, definitely fit as big of a tire as you can. I would love to put my set up in a rwd platform to actually get traction in lower gears.

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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by kberjian » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:12 am

Made a new running board to match the wider fender out of 16 gauge. Also tried out the new bead roller to attempt to recreate the body lines on the ruined doors. It worked ok, but I will need some more practice before I possibly ruin a full sheet.

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Had fun messing around with the bead dies for a bit then tried one of the flanging dies. Apparently if you have too much tension it shears it.....
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by Mitsuru » Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:22 am

If I had the space and the equipment that your playing with right there the fun I
could have making fender skirts and body panels (very jealous!!! :crazy: )

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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by speed127 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:18 pm

ya this is so full of WIN!!!! can't wait to see it done

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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by kberjian » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:56 am

I tried rolling a full length sheet of 18 gauge for the door skin with the narrow lower bead. The first roll went great, but the second roll tore the sheet for about 4" about 3/4 of the way through. Due to only being able to get/transport the 2'x4' sheets of 18 gauge, I will be doing a long splice and using two pieces to fill the height of the door anyway. I will probably cut off this roll and try again another night....
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by Mitsuru » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:15 am

Shame you don't have old panels from your previous cars to use as practice panels!
Keep at it chuck practice makes perfect!

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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by Drakito » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:23 pm

Have you tried heat and lubrication when bead rolling?
Take a torch and warm, not make red hot, the area you are rolling. Also some oil on the bead rollers to assist in lubrication might assist you. You could also start with a smaller bead and slowly enlarge it.

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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by kberjian » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:27 am

Had a few hours yesterday and decided to improve the bead roller setup. I made a mount for the bead roller that I can clamp to my welding table. I also tacked together a couple pieces to make a fence/guide for the sheets. It definately improved the straightness of my rolls but I think I will need another set of hands to make it work as well as I want. The sheets are too big and awkward to be able to position them and work the handle at the same time.
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by kberjian » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:41 am

After 2 weeks of trial and error, I ended up with a piece I can work with. Since my stock pieces are only 2' tall, I need to do a longitudinal splice with a second piece with the lower body line in it.

My bead roll does not exactly reproduce the stock contour but I plan on hammering/working it to transition to mine on each end. The pictures look worse than it actually is, I have the same depth, but the rounded corners and rounded plateau are not the same. As the whole car will be getting primered, I plan on welding,cleaning and priming this area this weekend. I think part of the mismatch look is due to colour and reflection.

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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by kberjian » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:14 am

I replaced the large rusted out section on top of the side skirts, I guess it could use it. I am getting pumped as there are less and less holes in it!
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by KennyL » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:17 am

Is that black on the passenger front fender part of the original paint? Crazy that some has survived all these years with the rest of the body in that kind of shape.
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by kberjian » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:11 am

Had a productive morning yesterdaysnd finished welding the paneling the door, tacked on the body contour from the original door, mounted the new rad, and started mocking up the new gas pedal. I will be leaving the original rad in position for the look. I have to cut off one if the pedals but am trying to understand which one I wanted , curved or straight.
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by kberjian » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:12 am

Finally back at it now I am healthy again. Recruited the H ockey player billet living with us and taught him a little shot welding, grinding and panel forming. We built the new bottom of the door and welded it in. He also made the missing piece out of the skirt all by himself. He was very proud and sent pictures to everyone. Good kid.

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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by rtguy02 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:19 am

i like the stance, great job :good:
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by INVUJerry » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:45 am

If you did it right you could plumb in the front radiator and have it be functional. Might be a tad difficult to bleed the air out but would be pretty cool.
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by redneckmoparman » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:50 pm

wow its really looking like a full car i love the work youve done with it! is the spare holder staying in the fender? i would think you would be smoothing that out...
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Post by kberjian » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:28 am

redneckmoparman wrote:wow its really looking like a full car i love the work youve done with it! is the spare holder staying in the fender? i would think you would be smoothing that out...
I had a patch made for it but as the fender has a contour it didn't look right. I have since bought a english wheel I will be playing with so I hope to have a good fill in panel made soon.

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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by kberjian » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:57 am

INVUJerry wrote:If you did it right you could plumb in the front radiator and have it be functional. Might be a tad difficult to bleed the air out but would be pretty cool.
I do plan on using that new aluminum rad at the front. I will be putting an inline pump in the hot side to push it to the front.... I hope it works as I haven't seen any projects with a similar system. I will be looking into the Toyota MR2 and Porsche 911s to see what they do as both have or had remote rads.

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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by Mitsuru » Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:14 am

kberjian wrote: have since bought a english wheel I will be playing with so I hope to have a good fill in panel made soon.
Err what's an English wheel?

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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by kberjian » Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:26 am

Mitsuru wrote:
kberjian wrote: have since bought a english wheel I will be playing with so I hope to have a good fill in panel made soon.
Err what's an English wheel?
A tool for putting curves in panels. Two wheels that press together and slightly squish/stretch the panel to make a curve. I have never used it before so I am pretty sure I will ruin many panels trying it. :yes:


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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by srt4eh » Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:15 pm

It's great to see more progress :)
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by redneckmoparman » Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:19 pm

right on im sure youll get the hang of the wheel pretty quickly it cant be that hard i mean if the occ boys can use it then anybody can! lol
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by kberjian » Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:01 am

Tried out my new tool and made a new cover panel for where the spare tire was in the front fender. It took 3 tries but I got a piece I am happy with and matches the contour of the fender.
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by redneckmoparman » Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:10 am

Wow that looks awesome!
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Post by kberjian » Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:58 am

Things are so much easier the second time you do them and you know what the plan is. I was able to get most of the passenger side body panel replacement done on Sunday. Next item is to fix the rust outs above the decklid and build a new panel to mount tail lights, exhaust ports and the license plate.

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Post by jw97neon » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:34 am

kberjian wrote:Things are so much easier the second time you do them and you know what the plan is. I was able to get most of the passenger side body panel replacement done on Sunday. Next item is to fix the rust outs above the decklid and build a new panel to mount tail lights, exhaust ports and the license plate.

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this is freaking awesome. keep up the great work and updates. can't wait to see the finished project.

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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by KennyL » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:47 am

So, are you going to end up with doors welded solid to the body and make it a climb over access? Pretty nifty fabrication here.
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by kberjian » Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:15 pm

Plan is to have solid welded doors and climb over to get in. Running boards will be functional so it is not too hard. Getting excited to have a car that actually looks like a car. After that it may even move on its own!

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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by redneckmoparman » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:20 pm

Looks awesome! Its getting close!
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by bgkast » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:34 pm

Very cool build! Nice to see another mid engine SRT project.
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Re: 1929 Willys Whippet SRT-4

Post by RD RT 98 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:48 am

Definitely one of the coolest builds on this site, ever
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