08's 2.4 swapped neon project log

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08's 2.4 swapped neon project log

Post by 08kgraves » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:03 pm

ok so i figured i would start a project log of how my 2.4 swapped neon was when i got it, as well as what i have done to it and will be doing to it in future.

ill start off by saying i did not build the car, so things are not the way i would have done it necessarily. meaning some things still need fixed that were kind of a hack job if you ask me. for some quick history i got the car from the person who bought the car off the original builder. so i am the third owner of the car since the 2.4 swap with the builder being the original owner. as far as i know everything done to the car was by the builder and the guy i got it from pretty much just drove the car, maintained it and about nothing else. i have been in contact with the original builder as well from time to time to answer questions and what not.




heres a copy of the add i found on craigslist awhile back with original pics as well.

Im selling my 1996 Dodge Neon 2.4 swap. The engine is out of a 2000 Dodge Stratus that had 70k on it. It was installed about three years ago, Ive put about 30k on it since then. It was my daily driver but needs tires, which I have just dont have the time to get them installed.....I went through the engine, It has all new gaskets and seals from the head to the oil pan, Srt timing set (tensioner, idler belt etc.) Balance shafts are removed, head was cut .035 to raise the comp. ratio. It has an AMM no 90 lower intake manifold, solid bobble strut, full prothane motor mounts all around. Egr has been removed and blocked off. New struts on the rear with Performance Driven High rate springs, (have new struts and springs for the front, never installed.) Battery has been relocated to the bumper. Runs good, shifts good, gets around 30 mpg. I ran it at the strip three years ago once I got it on the road. It ran high 14's with slicks. Just dont have time or money to put into it, Full R/t interior etc. There is rust starting to show through the primer, bodys a little rough. But it doesnt leak a drop of oil, Ive only ran Mobil 1 full sythetic through it.

1500 obo, I have extra parts to go with it if I get the right price. I have a set of Mickey Thompson et. slicks and a custom ordered Big tube kirk racing header.

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I gave him both of my dodge dakota's and sadly all my rc stuff but i now have the car ive been wanting. i wanted to switch to electric anyway since mine were all nitro so im not to overly bumbed. the one dakota was ready to drive and was a 94 extended cab short bed 2wd with 3.9L v6 and roughly 193,000 miles. the other was a 92 standard cab long bed 4x4 with 5.2L 318 v8 and 135,000 ish miles. the 4x4 has a rusted out body, the 2wd has a rusted out frame. and the 4x4 needs an ignition relay, and a freeze plug. then the rc's were my 4907 T-Maxx built for racing, and my slayer pro 4x4 which was mostly stock.



here are some pics of the car as it sat when i brought it home.

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to be continued
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Re: 08's 2.4 swapped neon project log

Post by 08kgraves » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:11 pm

continued

yes the dial in time says 16.1 but that was when the other guy had it and the car refused to run consistant what so ever. so i thought i would point that out quick. the car wouldnt rev past about 4k for some reason which will be answered in a later post that i already fixed.

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rt interior

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missing radio, which thankfully the harness was not cut. just adapter kit cut from cd player itself.

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even got the magnet off the guy lol

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look at the slicks i got with it.

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anyone know what kind of wheels these are?

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22x8x15 mickey thompson e/t slicks

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some underhood pics

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venem energy bottle for overflow

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amm no 90 lower intake

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to be continued
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Re: 08's 2.4 swapped neon project log

Post by 08kgraves » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:17 pm

continued

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battery behind the bumper which is good for weight distribution, not so good when it dies though lol

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stratus gas tank and fuel pump the second owner got when the car wouldnt run right (not reving up) not knowing that it wouldnt work at all lol

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spare coil to.

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front struts and springs athat still need installed. rears already on though

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to be continued
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Re: 08's 2.4 swapped neon project log

Post by 08kgraves » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:31 pm

continued

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the only 2 working speakers lol

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ok now heres where i start getting into the car myself lol

i ran the car at the drag strip and the car was absolutely all over the board as far as consistany goes. after a few passes i put a fuel pressure gauge on car. turns out at idle i have 49-50 psi and it stays that way just off idle as well. but if you crack the gas or rev the car in any way shape or form really then the fuel pressure would just start dropping off the chart horribly. so i got lucky being that the base of the car was a 96 and it has the steel gas tank with external fuel filter. well $23 later for a good wix filter and the car magically runs right and doesnt drop pressure anymore! no pics of the fuel filter but same day i did a fresh oil change with wix filter and mobil 1 oil.

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I also forgot to mention that the shell of car is 96, the motor is from a 2000 stratus, and everything else is from a 99 RT neon including the pcm, and the 5 speed transmission.

I quickly decided that the car being primer grey with a black front clip and a black rear bumper was very annoying lol. its only rattle can but the car has some rust and dents anyway so im not going for perfect by far. winshield needs replaced to.

some sanding

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i found out i should have sanded it all first then painted so i dint have to worry about overspray and such lol

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to be continued
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Re: 08's 2.4 swapped neon project log

Post by 08kgraves » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:37 pm

continued

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thought it was going to start raining so i covered the freshest paint lol. only option i had to try and help....... it never did rain though

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never did the trunk yet cus there is a twist in the trunk and im just going to replace the lid.

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yeah i should have covered windshield way way better............... lesson learned when i had to scrape it off lol

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Re: 08's 2.4 swapped neon project log

Post by 08kgraves » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:42 pm

continued

if i remember right i went to junk yard to look for a decent trunk lid. but they changed there hours on sat and i walked in about 5 minutes before they now closed. i happend to look over on there table and seen some projector headlights with turn signals as well. i thought hmm those look like they fit a neon. so i walk over and pick one up to look at. on the bottom it says 99 neon. so after finding out they only wanted $50 i went home with them instead of a trunk lid. lol

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to be continued
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Re: 08's 2.4 swapped neon project log

Post by mopar[maniac] » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:55 pm

Nice find on the headlights,i have the same ones but with black housings.So whats the goal for the car?
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Re: 08's 2.4 swapped neon project log

Post by 08kgraves » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:02 pm

continued

fresh out of the car wash (new headlights not installed yet sadly)

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old lights

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new lights in and looking good

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these are last pics i have uploaded to photobucket account right now. but since then i have picked up some other parts that still need installed body wise. i have a clean passenger fender, a clean drivers fender if i can bend the mounting tabs back to where the should be........ otherwise i have to try and remove dents from one on car. i also got another front bumper with fog light holes and foam support for free. got rear bumper foam for free as well (both mine are missing). and got both the inner wheel well covers since mine are missing. got another trunk lid as well but it had the stock wing so i gotta weld the holes shut as well as repair a small dent above the lock. and i cant decide if i want to shave the third brake light or not.....................

input?

otherwise ive just kind of drove the car and raced it on and off locally. and of course put some punks to shame that they thought were hot stuff lol. best i myself have run in the car is a 15.6 spinning bad on the 175 width front wheels lol. but as far as the high 14 mentioned in the craigslist add the original builder of the car sent me a picture of the time slip. it ran a 14.7 something.

lets see... what else? oh the heater core went out on me and i bypassed it for the time being, once in awhile the battery light will come on and for codes it says that the battery is being over charged????

is the cus of the under drive pully? or because of the voltage regulator? where is the voltage regulator on this car? is it in the alternator? or the pcm?

i had to fix the alternator brackets as well. well more like replace them i should say. the upper one broke the small section on bottom side that the pinch bolt sits on. the lower one was well........... ghetto rigged for some reason. the two mounts that are side by side that go into block were just cut off completely, then the lower one that attaches to the ear coming off the block had the wrong size bolt in it, so they cut an ear off the inside so they could run a smaller but and bolt through it. well all this caused it to have 2 pivot points basically and physically make it impossible to have a correct pully angle. they were the correct pt cruiser brackets to which is why i dont understand why they cut it up and rigged it all. but i had to tap all 3 lower bracket mounts again. but in the end i fixed it lol. then just recently the battery was dead so im wondering if it was just a bad battery or if the overcharge thing cooked the battery........ so i need to look into that more.
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Re: 08's 2.4 swapped neon project log

Post by 08kgraves » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:04 pm

mopar[maniac] wrote:Nice find on the headlights,i have the same ones but with black housings.So whats the goal for the car?
to be honest im not 100% sure yet of my goal. i dont know if i want to go N/A or go turbo.......... so for now just slowly improve it and make it funner and funner.
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Re: 08's 2.4 swapped neon project log

Post by 08kgraves » Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:10 pm

well im ocd when it comes to certain things i think........ so that being said since this will now be the main basis for anything to do with this car if a new thread for a specific issue on this car gets started then i will link it here so that i can find everything easier lol

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Re: 08's 2.4 swapped neon project log

Post by jspata17 » Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:21 pm

I got a trunk lid if you want it for like $30. Already sanded
1999 Plymouth Neon DOHC 5 speed coupe
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Weighed in at 2700 with me
Ran best of 15.3 at 90mph. Full interior.

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Re: 08's 2.4 swapped neon project log

Post by 08kgraves » Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:43 pm

jspata17 wrote:I got a trunk lid if you want it for like $30. Already sanded
thanks for the offer but for $10 i got a fender, front bumper with foam, rear bumper foam, a trunk lid with 1 small dent, and both inner wheel wells lol. plus your at $30 and then shipping from virginia lol. i think ill just fix my one small dent lol
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Post by 08kgraves » Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:42 am

heres some more pics i uploaded the other day

a little rain pic of the headlights

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like my awesome broken alternator bracket? upper

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new unbroken upper bracket, along with the missing tention bolt

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and this is why it was breaking. you can see where someone cut the one lower ear off for the alternator pivot as well as the other 2 mounts that go on the block next to eachother. and with the one hole they left they used the wrong size bolt and put a nut on the back. no wonder things were breaking lol

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another pic of the upper bracket

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i didnt take a pic of the new lower bracket side by side to the one that was on my car but i should have. i was just in a hurry to get my car running at that point lol




but heres a pic of the time slip for the car right after it was built on slicks. ran a 14.757

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Re: 08's 2.4 swapped neon project log

Post by 08kgraves » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:24 pm

hot weather running issue

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strut assembly question

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Post by 08kgraves » Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:08 pm

shouldnt my car be faster thread

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Post by 08kgraves » Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:56 am

ok so who like how i have to jump start my car? lol could do it easier but i get best connection here and bumper was only zip tied right now

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since ive been having charging issues with my battery i decided it was time to pull it out. from what im gathering the alternator is putting out 13.9V at idle and thats at the battery so unless its getting overcharged then my problem is the battery. since fully charged is 12.6V (2.1V per cell (6 cells)) and anything up to 15.4 is technically safe but anything over 14.7V worries me 13.9 charge rate should be perfect and not have any issue. well im thinking i may have a dead cell in my battery because i keep getting a random overcharge light sometimes (only when going down the highway) and my battery is now dying over night. when i took it out the other day it was at 10.35V so if it was just a dropped cell it would go from 12.6 down to 10.5V and a dead cell could easily be pulling it down to the 10.35V

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also i noticed before my battery was moving around more then i felt safe with. so i wanted to go through and redo my mount for the relocation. but here is how it is right now. i still need to get pics of it off the car.

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also decided it was time to yank off the beat up fender to fit the junk yard one i picked up awhile back. need pics of the fitment as is and the two mounting tabs in the doorjam are bent and need straitened. also the clips are missing to hold bolts in for these two locations.

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i will try and get more pics up as soon as possible of the battery tray off and stuff.
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Post by 08kgraves » Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:45 pm

ok so heres another little update.

after removing the tray i got it all measured up and slightly changed the design (still not 100% final). this should hold the battery much more solid as its way thicker then the previous one. or it will be thicker i should say.

but i also noticed that the battery i pulled out was from walmart and it said that i had a little bit of time left to get free replacement. which i might note that i didnt know if they would do or not because the battery was in the car when i bought it and i did not buy it and install it myself. well first they said they had to test it before they could do anything. but walmart doesnt do a 5 minute maxx test like everywhere else. theres takes an hour and a half to tell me my battery is bad which i already knew. well then she proceeded to tell me that usually they wont do battery exchange without the receipt. she said i could talk to customer service up front or a manager to verify that since i didnt have any paperwork. i wasnt going to bother since i never had paperwork because i didnt buy the battery. well the auto parts manager came back and she asked him and he verified and said that they wouldnt do anything without the receipt. so i walk outside and over by the bay door so they could bring me my battery. as he was bringing it over i noticed a couple of things. first being that this one had a strap on it where mine did not. second being that it looked brand new where mine looked far from being up in the wheel well. and the third being that it was side post where my battery was top post.

at this point i was like whatever, i know mines junk if there going to give me a different one that i can make work then i wont complain. so i didnt say a word as he gave it to me, i just carried it to my car put it on the passenger floor board then left. well they had a little test tag on it like what they did for mine. and after some closer looking they gave me a brand new never even used battery. and it was one of there everstart maxx series which is like there top of the line battery there lol. the battery is 1/2" longer than the one i had though so it wont fit in my battery tray (which is broke), but no big deal because i have to remake it. and for being side post instead of top post isnt a big deal either because i wanted to redo my wires anyway. so for $30 or less i can get my proper cables put on then whatever it costs me to get the tray made. which is 1/2" longer then my old one and i think im going to lower it down some as well while im at it.
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Post by 08kgraves » Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:48 pm

ok so today i was on my way home and i spotted a nice entertainment center with a free sign on it. so i stopped and it was actually really nice shape. well the guy came out while me and my mom were looking at it (she happend to be with me) and he helped me move it back by the house so i could come back later when my brother was off work with his truck. i found out then that the guy raced sprint cars though.

well long story short me and my brother went back later on to get it and was talking to the guy for like an hour about everything under the sun. turns out he works in a full machine shop and fabricates as well. so tomorrow im going over to his house and hes gonna look at my old battery box and plans for a new one and hopefully get it all made up for me :) so we got an entertainment stand for my brother (to big for my room) and i got a new contact for when i need any type of machining or welding done.
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Re: 08's 2.4 swapped neon project log

Post by FER24NEON » Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:14 pm

Like i said in other forums, this build is awesome.

Are you still running stock 2.4 cams and fuel system?

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Post by 08kgraves » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:34 am

it has the 2.0 cams in it and only upgrade i know of is the 24lb injectors. so other then that its stock. for now :)
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Post by FER24NEON » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:21 pm

sweet! it gives me hope that my Neon isn't a high 15 second car when it's running right lol.

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Post by 08kgraves » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:01 pm

well mine with super small tires and crazy wheel spin has run a mid 15 still on street tires. so wider tires are a must. but i did not actually witness it but have a pic of a time slip for the car running a 14.7 on slicks.
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Post by FER24NEON » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:14 pm

I'm hoping for low 15s. thats it haha.

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Post by 08kgraves » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:30 pm

so the guy has my blueprint for the new battery box, as well as my old one. i dropped them off last night. and while we were talking about it we both had a beer. the guy is super cool, his name is dan. we also talked about racing and his sprint cars some. after he gets his chassis powder coated ill probably be going over to help him put the car back together here and there over the winter. but anyway he said he should have the battery box done by the weekend for me and probably cost right around $20 to make. so i cant complain one bit. looking forward to picking up the battery box this weekend though.
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Post by 08kgraves » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:52 am

ok update time since i thought i already did part of this lol. here is where the battery mounts to on the car

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little cover over the access panel

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without the cover

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some other parts i picked up from someone scrapping out a neon. only paid $10 for these parts. only thing i need is the trunk lid and the wheel well covers lol

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old battery box pulled out. you can see where it broke because the back was not one solid piece. it was welded right there

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it was not twisted that bad. that happend when i was trying to get the battery off the tray. it was so thin it just bent it all...............

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and the lack of side bracing on the thin metal that was broken as well probably explains why my battery moved around like it did.......

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Post by 08kgraves » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:02 am

its still not a 100% done. a few little mods need to be made to it for things we forgot and or did not take into consideration. the triangle cutout needs to be made on the side as well to clear the bracing, it was made for the 7" wide stock size battery not this new 6 1/2" wide battery so the clamp part needs to be extended or remade completely to hold the battery in place, and last but not least we forgot to measure the part of the battery to hold its handle so i will have to carefully cut it off with a dremel. which is no big deal. the stock battery is not as long so i think it will fit. but heres the pics i took last night for everyone. it will be painted to before i put it on.

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you can see where the handle bracing is catching here

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Post by 08kgraves » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:23 pm

ok, more updates on the new battery box!

dont mind the scuffs. that from me sliding the battery out

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mounts up with some 1/2" bolts to the car. the plate to go on the other side with nuts welded on it is not made yet

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reliefs for the subframe bracing........... check

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battery hold down.......... check

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fitment

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and now the bad.............

neither one of us thought about the bolt heads sticking into the battery........ maybe this was why my other one failed? not sure but because of this the battery box need some reworking now..........

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back to the measuring and the drawing i guess

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the lip to catch the battery doesnt even work because of the bolts sticking out.......... sigh..........

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so with the good the bad and the ugly clear we now know what needs to be changed. im going to remeasure how the tray sits at current heith with bumper on. if theres enough room i will drop it down further so the bolts would just be above the battery. if not enough room then only other real option to keep the bolts from sticking out is to add material to the inside so that the bolts are then inset compared to the rest of the backing. also plan to get some button head bolts to keep it from sticking out so much. then we plan to use more of a racing inspired battery tray the uses angle iron over the top corner of the battery with all thread on both sides going to the bottom back of the battery to wedge the battery in much better. and i have an idea of how to make this adjustable to fit a few different sizes of batteries.
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Post by 08kgraves » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:54 am

dark outside and i was getting rained on but heres a little fitment idea of this battery box. it has to go over to the right about 1/2" but the battery tray size im planning on making is 1/4" longer than this one so it will sit about 1/4" further from the tire, and to keep the bolts from digging into the battery it will also sit 2 1/2" lower as well. now my tires are slightly smaller than the common size people run which is a 195/60R14. that size measures in at 23.2" diameter and mine measure in at 23" even. but by the time you move the tray over and put the bigger tire it will sit a hair further away then in this pic.

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Post by 08kgraves » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:13 pm

well........... still in the process of redoing the whole battery tray, but i did just order this

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then at some point i will get me a voltage gauge as well. come spring time i will get the battery tray all mounted up, and voltage gauge installeded.








so my new gauge bezel came in today...............


looks pretty legit i must say cant wait to get it installed with working gauges and get that car rocking down the road again. my builder is coming by sunday to look at the measurements i took for the battery box and everything so hopefully ill get the new and final design on that. and since im starting to work again ill be able to actually afford my new battery cables i need as well as the gauges i want lol








i know you are but anyways...... back on subject..............

so now that i will be working again i can spend more money on my cars conservitably of course

buying everything you want is always funner but that gets you know where in life. so i will just get what i need to get my car on the road and running right. so right now that involves a voltage gauge to keep an eye on the alternator, some new battery cables, and a heater core. next on my list will be a oil pressure gauge im thinking. oh wait........ nevermind. i got a bad tie rod end and sway bar bushings. oh and bad rear brakes lol. so ill get voltage gauge then work on my steering issues and brake issues. ill get my exhaust i already have put on as well though while im at it.

all slowly one thing at a time though. and at same time i will be putting away money to go towards a new cab for my mini truck
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Post by 08kgraves » Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:14 pm

still hanging it, but looks way better with the new fender already.

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bumper is just sitting there. its not actually mounted though

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i might be able to hammer and dolly the one medium size dent on driver fender. its not creased at all, i just gotta pull it off to try first.

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Post by 08kgraves » Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:03 pm

gotta recut the notches from this pic because the base isnt wide enough. also i dont know what happend but my 2 squares for the access hole are an inch lower than they are supposed to be.

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you can see how well the mounting holes line up though

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marking off the side bracket that is covered up by the bumper/core support

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here you can see why the base of the notches needs widend out more. the relief hole for the bumper bolt needs moved just a hair and made bigger as well.

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changed the notches up some. this is of the backing plate............ perfect fit! :cool:

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cut an inch tall section out of the top and moved to the bottom of the squares so its in the right spot now.

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some changes need made so side plate will need redone still for the final template. plus i want thicker material so its more to "scale" so i will redo them all.

but this is where there at for now.

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Post by 08kgraves » Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:07 pm

i also measured to redo all my battery cables and switch over to sidepost. just gotta get the wire to do that part.
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Post by 08kgraves » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:48 pm

ok well, the weather is getting warmer out and the first day open to test and tune at the track is may first. so after my brother made me a different battery tray that still wasnt right i just went over today to the builder of the original one. took both the one he made before and my brothers, along with the battery so he knows exact fitment. but alll in all i gotta get this pig back on the road so its time to start working with her again.
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Post by 08kgraves » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:33 pm

ok, been awhile. little bit of an update...........

buying another neon here soon. 97 2dr. sohc atx. which i will be putting my whole 2.4 into :)
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Post by joesf » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:05 pm

You staying atx?
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Post by 08kgraves » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:55 pm

joesf wrote:You staying atx?

negative sir, atx is slow and boring lol.

but i need to get on here more often. i got the 2dr been driving it more and finding out the little quarks of the parts in it now so i know before i pull them out lol. friday night i pulled the 2.4 motor and rt trans out of the 4 door since i was having issues with it anyway. turns out the harness was just all sorts of hacked up and sketchy for one. and then on top of that the egr "block off" looked like it was a freaking thin beer can almost that was leaking horribly. and the exhaust manifold was cracked horribly to so yeah......... screwed wiring plus two major exhaust leaks before the upstream o2 sensor probably isnt helping lol. so before that motor goes back in the 2dr it will be getting a proper egr block off, a clean wire harness, and a tti long tube header :)
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Post by joesf » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:00 pm

Ask Mopar[maniac] and guhfluh how slow and boring ATX is lol
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Post by 08kgraves » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:30 pm

joesf wrote:Ask Mopar[maniac] and guhfluh how slow and boring ATX is lol

ok save me some trouble and just spill the beans............... lol.


i can honestly say if i was building a bracket racing car of any sort be it a neon or a 67 charger it would have a built automatic in it for the consistancy factor alone. but for a car i want to be fun thats street and strip i just like it to be a 5 speed :).
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Post by joesf » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:38 pm

To each his own. Most people would stay MTX if they could handle any sort of power consistently. I know I would.
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Post by 08kgraves » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:46 pm

joesf wrote:To each his own. Most people would stay MTX if they could handle any sort of power consistently. I know I would.

exactly, i know i would run a manual if i could do it super consistant lol.
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